Poch in the summer

I think Ole is doing a decent job with what he’s got tbh.

Originally Posted by dunk

It hasn't all been shit though, has it? There have been positives along the way, the issues we've seen recently have clearly been down to lack of options, fatigue and injuries, none of which are part of anyone's plan.

But weren't these issues the same earlier in the season - Bournemouth, Palace, West Ham, Newcastle, etc. - when options, fatigue and injuries were not so much of a factor? This isn't a recent problem. It's been with us all season, as well as end of last season.

Not in any way bothered about Poch though.

Originally Posted by shenwen

But weren't these issues the same earlier in the season - Bournemouth, Palace, West Ham, Newcastle, etc. - when options, fatigue and injuries were not so much of a factor? This isn't a recent problem. It's been with us all season, as well as end of last season.

Not in any way bothered about Poch though.

They were still issues with the playing staff, lack of character and options, which are being addressed at glacial speed..

Originally Posted by shenwen

But weren't these issues the same earlier in the season - Bournemouth, Palace, West Ham, Newcastle, etc. - when options, fatigue and injuries were not so much of a factor? This isn't a recent problem. It's been with us all season, as well as end of last season.

Not in any way bothered about Poch though.

Last season we were shit because of poor fitness. Now it's that we've got rid of shit players but the squad isn't good enough. Even though it was good enough to finish second with those shit players.

Seems like a lot of excuses being made. Not very convincing excuses either.

Originally Posted by dunk

I wouldn't. Just as I didn't want LvG out. This is a huge change within the club, it takes time.

I’ll tell you what, Woodward really could have saved a bit of money by employing Ashton when he’s got dunk doing it for free 24 seven

Originally Posted by Vedder

I think Ole is doing a decent job with what he’s got tbh.

No. Sheffield United manager is “doing a good job with what he’s got”, Ole is doing a pretty poor job by anybody’s standards

Originally Posted by Sparky***

I’ll tell you what, Woodward really could have saved a bit of money by employing Ashton when he’s got dunk doing it for free 24 seven

I'd have charged more to work for that worm. I'm doing £#%&! all for free. If you're expecting an immediate turnaround from the pile of shit Mourinho left you're a £#%&!ing moron.

Originally Posted by dunk

I'd have charged more to work for that worm. I'm doing £#%&! all for free. If you're expecting an immediate turnaround from the pile of shit Mourinho left you're a £#%&!ing moron.

Oh there’s been a turnaround alright, we went from finishing second and winning two trophies to being mid table mediocrity

Originally Posted by Vedder

I think Ole is doing a decent job with what he’s got tbh.

Sometimes I think that.

Then we get turned over at home to Burnley.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Oh there’s been a turnaround alright, we went from finishing second and winning two trophies to being mid table mediocrity

Are you really this dim?

Originally Posted by dunk

Are you really this dim?

You cannot deny what is in front of you, your arguments have absolutely no weight to them now. Club is in freefall

Originally Posted by windy waffles

Trust me, you wont see me posting about that.



I'm basing it on the shit we have seen over the past 12 months.

Mate your a joke .. Williams v sheff Utd proved everything about you. Fact

Originally Posted by atticusgrinch

If Ole qualifies for the CL he stays. If not he's out.

Dont really see the issue with that. That's how the other managers were judged.

I think he will stay if we come top six - which shows how our standards have dropped.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Oh there’s been a turnaround alright, we went from finishing second and winning two trophies to being mid table mediocrity

I didn't want to say this as people would accuse me of having an agenda but - spot on.

We went from finishing second to finishing sixth and will probably finish eighth this season. This after signing a player Mourninho wasn't allowed but Ole was.

This is supposedly progress...

Originally Posted by puressence

Mate your a joke .. Williams v sheff Utd proved everything about you. Fact

I said 'even williams had a bad game' or words to that effect - it was a compliment if anything you thick bastard.

At least I know his names. Williamson...

It’s amazing how everyone bar one or two completely overlook the £#%&!ing mess of the 6 years before ole came and is trying to get rid of all the players every single one of you £#%&!ing wanted to get rid and introduce younger better hungrier players introducing young talent from the acedemy and players improving ie Fred Marcus Scott lindelof .. all so the stoke Pulis can arrive.

Originally Posted by windy waffles

I think he will stay if we come top six - which shows how our standards have dropped.



I didn't want to say this as people would accuse me of having an agenda but - spot on.

We went from finishing second to finishing sixth and will probably finish eighth this season. This after signing a player Mourninho wasn't allowed but Ole was.

This is supposedly progress...



I said 'even williams had a bad game' or words to that effect - it was a compliment if anything you thick bastard.

At least I know his names. Williamson...

Your the Lonsdale of the forum. Let’s hammer a player in his 5th full game. You skid mark

Originally Posted by puressence

It’s amazing how everyone bar one or two completely overlook the £#%&!ing mess of the 6 years before ole came and is trying to get rid of all the players every single one of you £#%&!ing wanted to get rid and introduce younger better hungrier players introducing young talent from the acedemy and players improving ie Fred Marcus Scott lindelof .. all so the stoke Pulis can arrive.



Your the Lonsdale of the forum. Let’s hammer a player in his 5th full game. You skid mark

Didn't hammer him. God you really are a thick mess.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

You cannot deny what is in front of you, your arguments have absolutely no weight to them now. Club is in freefall

Your negative %@#$&!s has no weight, you’re screaming and moaning like a child. There is no instant fix.

Originally Posted by dunk

Your negative %@#$&!s has no weight, you’re screaming and moaning like a child. There is no instant fix.

No, but there is better method to fix it.

Originally Posted by windy waffles

No, but there is better method to fix it.

The current method hasn't been given time to prove it's merits as yet. That's the point you dolt.

Originally Posted by shenwen

But weren't these issues the same earlier in the season - Bournemouth, Palace, West Ham, Newcastle, etc. - when options, fatigue and injuries were not so much of a factor? This isn't a recent problem. It's been with us all season, as well as end of last season.

Not in any way bothered about Poch though.

Issues before this season imo.

LVG's first season we lost to Swansea home and away, Leicester away (when they were shite), and Southampton and West Brom at home. Then you look at draws at Sunderland, Burnley, West Brom, Villa, Stoke and Hull.

His second season we lost to Swansea, Bournemouth, Sunderland, West Brom, West Ham and Stoke away; and we lost to Norwich and Southampton at home.

Mourinho's first season we only lost 5 games all season, the worst one being away to Watford. But we drew at home against Burnley, Stoke, Hull, Bournemouth, West Brom and Swansea, only scoring four goals in total across those 6 games.

Mourinho's second season we lost 7 games and finished 2nd, West Brom at home and Huddersfield, Newcastle and Brighton away being the worst of the defeats that season. We drew against Burnley and Southampton at home. That has been our best season since Fergie retired, but the football was absolute dross and then everything went to shit in typical Mourinho style.

Not going to bother with last season as it was an absolute mess.

We've dropped points against the 'shitter' teams at home for years. We're dropping more at the moment, but imo the league is more competitive now that it has ever been, and our squad is the weakest it's been in decades.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

I’ll tell you what, Woodward really could have saved a bit of money by employing Ashton when he’s got dunk doing it for free 24 seven

Not sure how putting the mess the clubs in squarely on the board and not the manager is good PR for the board

Originally Posted by dunk

Your negative %@#$&!s has no weight, you’re screaming and moaning like a child. There is no instant fix.

Cool. How long then?

I only ask because you are seemingly absolutely sure we are heading down the right path with the right man in charge, so in your infinite expertise how long is this “fix” going to take?

Originally Posted by Patty_b

Issues before this season imo.

LVG's first season we lost to Swansea home and away, Leicester away (when they were shite), and Southampton and West Brom at home. Then you look at draws at Sunderland, Burnley, West Brom, Villa, Stoke and Hull.

His second season we lost to Swansea, Bournemouth, Sunderland, West Brom, West Ham and Stoke away; and we lost to Norwich and Southampton at home.

Mourinho's first season we only lost 5 games all season, the worst one being away to Watford. But we drew at home against Burnley, Stoke, Hull, Bournemouth, West Brom and Swansea, only scoring four goals in total across those 6 games.

Mourinho's second season we lost 7 games and finished 2nd, West Brom at home and Huddersfield, Newcastle and Brighton away being the worst of the defeats that season. We drew against Burnley and Southampton at home. That has been our best season since Fergie retired, but the football was absolute dross and then everything went to shit in typical Mourinho style.

Not going to bother with last season as it was an absolute mess.

We've dropped points against the 'shitter' teams at home for years. We're dropping more at the moment, but imo the league is more competitive now that it has ever been, and our squad is the weakest it's been in decades.



Not sure how putting the mess the clubs in squarely on the board and not the manager is good PR for the board

How is the current football style better than Mourinho's?

It's pretty much exactly the same isn't it? Just less well executed.