Lingard being a thoroughly decent chap..

This gif sums him up. In the perfect position in the space between the Palace midfield and defence but his first touch is shocking. Get a better ball player in the spaces he finds himself in and we can be so much better.

https://gfycat.com/exemplarypointedhart

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

You'd see signs of that being the case were it true. It's still early so judgement should be reserved, but those stories from the summer everyone was happy to dismiss about training being running more than anything could come back under scrutiny.

You can always see a side that has been well prepared but doesn't have the quality or enough belief to fulfil the approach entirely. We saw it in Van Gaal's second season. In fact that's the only time United have looked well coached in years. But you do need both parts. No good having the right approach or preparation if a) the players aren't buying it b) they aren't good enough to perform it regularly.

Very early days this season though. The club was so negative in the summer so it's strange that one defeat should lead to meltdown.

I was very pissed off yesterday. For the first time in ages i actually expected us to win, despite our quite obvious frailties. I thought the energy and tempo would carry us over the line.

How £#%&!ing wrong I was.

If this is genuinely the beginning of a rebuild then i suppose we have to allow for shit like this to happen. Naively getting caught going for a win with a sucker punch is forgivable to an extent, but that's the price you pay for placing all your stock in youngsters and players who haven't ever had a consistent season.

What i'm not willing to tolerate now is the club ditching the manager when we inevitably finishing 8th or whatever. if you're gonna do a rebuild then £#%&!ing back Solkjaer for 5 years. Don't be cowards, United.

It's gonna be feast or famine for us this season. We're gonna @#%&! teams and then we'll get turned over like that yesterday.

Originally Posted by Buck

This gif sums him up. In the perfect position in the space between the Palace midfield and defence but his first touch is shocking. Get a better ball player in the spaces he finds himself in and we can be so much better.

https://gfycat.com/exemplarypointedhart

Ffs.

Is it any wonder Pogba wants to get the hell out of here, given that's the level of shit he has around him?

It's not even a difficult ball to kill, nicely weighted, on the ground, towards his strong foot, and he's under no pressure from any opposition player. He's just so utterly crap.

City have got David Silva and Bernardo Silva taking those passes from De Bruyne, and we've got this brand-building, dancing goblin.

Originally Posted by Neo

Ffs.

Is it any wonder Pogba wants to get the hell out of here, given that's the level of shit he has around him?

It's not even a difficult ball to kill, nicely weighted, on the ground, towards his strong foot, and he's under no pressure from any opposition player. He's just so utterly crap.

City have got David Silva and Bernardo Silva taking those passes from De Bruyne, and we've got this brand-building, dancing goblin.

Don't it's £#%&!ing embarassing. Nothing sums up our decline more than this imposter being a first choice as our attacking midfielder

Originally Posted by Buck

This gif sums him up. In the perfect position in the space between the Palace midfield and defence but his first touch is shocking. Get a better ball player in the spaces he finds himself in and we can be so much better.

https://gfycat.com/exemplarypointedhart

My son, who is only 12, can control a pass better than that...every Saturday...

He’d be in a better position to complain about the quality of player around him if he weren’t costing us points with poor decisions and missed penalties tbh.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Don't it's £#%&!ing embarassing. Nothing sums up our decline more than this imposter being a first choice as our attacking midfielder

But the sympathy with Solskjaer’s predicament is going to dry up double quick if he keeps picking the @#%&!, that’s for sure.

Originally Posted by utd99

Well certainly fitness was the number one issue to address; our conditioning towards the tail end of last season was shocking. But does anybody truly believe that Solskjaer has come into the club and is not trying to coach our forwards on cohesive attacking play? It’s preposterous.

There isn’t a manager in world football -or has ever existed- that can plan around a poor first touch and awful decision making outside of replacing those players with better ones, and that doesn’t happen overnight. How much better would we look instantly with Eriksen or Dybala in that 10? But if they don’t want to come, they don’t want to come. None of the reasons we’re not as appealing as we once were are down to Ole.

Why? Moyes came in six years ago and apparently did just that, or at least lacked sufficient ideas. Solskjaer's managerial credentials are hardly high calibre. For me there are obvious qualities he brings. I always felt he was a good judge of the dressing room dynamics and I'd trust his decisions on who was disruptive.

But as a coach he has to earn his stripes, without doubt.

Originally Posted by Curtis

They did two weeks of running and fitness work. After that training became more normally balanced. What a surprise, the media grab a comment someone makes about training being unusually fitness heavy at the start and tries to sell it as a mutiny.

The shitshow the team is serving up, has absolutely £#%&! all to do with two weeks fitness training in pre season.

You can get fit with the ball. Bielsa isn't having players run up mountains for two weeks. They'd combine both aspects.

Anyway, this stuff will show itself as the season progresses. But a limited coach will be exposed in this league.

Looks like he’ll playing 10 for the foreseeable future

"No," Solskjaer replied when asked if he had any concerns about Lingard's form. "We stick together and Jesse's not scored any goals in the last three games, no, but he's been a big part of our team and will continue being an important part.

"The energy he gives us is lively, but we felt Mason had to come on and create something and we'll see more of Mason."

Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust

Looks like he’ll playing 10 for the foreseeable future

Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust

Looks like he’ll playing 10 for the foreseeable future

If he wants to put his job in the hands of a lingard i suppose it’s his prerogative. I wouldn’t.

Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust

Looks like he’ll playing 10 for the foreseeable future

Three games??

It’s been more like 6 months hasn’t it ffs?

Can’t wait to watch angel Gomes tear it up for a different club next season while we’re still playing Jesse.

Is Ole going to get the same stick as the previous manager for not playing the talented kids?

of course he's gonna say that ffs.

don't be surprised if lingard gets dropped soon

Originally Posted by AK14

Is Ole going to get the same stick as the previous manager for not playing the talented kids?

We've put out the youngest squad in the league for every game this season, you thick, turbo-posting @#%&!.

Originally Posted by AK14

Three games??

It’s been more like 6 months hasn’t it ffs?

Can’t wait to watch angel Gomes tear it up for a different club next season while we’re still playing Jesse.

Is Ole going to get the same stick as the previous manager for not playing the talented kids?

Ole brought Greenwood on in Paris tbf. The previous manager would barely know what Greenwood looks like.

Originally Posted by Buck

This gif sums him up. In the perfect position in the space between the Palace midfield and defence but his first touch is shocking. Get a better ball player in the spaces he finds himself in and we can be so much better.

https://gfycat.com/exemplarypointedhart

That doesn’t look great, but what he’s attempting there isn’t the easiest thing in the world. If it was just a case of controlling the pass from Pogba fair enough, but he’s trying to cushion the ball just enough so it runs on in front of him, and also turn his entire body 180 at the same time, with 2 defenders close by. Obviously he £#%&!s it up massively but I actually like that he’s attempting that rather than going for the easy option of receiving it with his back to goal.

That gif sums him up.

You can have the best movement in the world but if you can't control or pass the ball, you're pointless.

Originally Posted by Ethers

That doesn’t look great, but what he’s attempting there isn’t the easiest thing in the world. If it was just a case of controlling the pass from Pogba fair enough, but he’s trying to cushion the ball just enough so it runs on in front of him, and also turn his entire body 180 at the same time, with 2 defenders close by. Obviously he £#%&!s it up massively but I actually like that he’s attempting that rather than going for the easy option of receiving it with his back to goal.

Fizzed at him too. Given Lingard’s control is pretty decent, it doesn’t sum him up at all imo.

Lingard definitely needs to improve his productivity. Assists I’m not so bothered about but he initially looked to be a goal threat. I think he hasn’t scored since the win over Arsenal in February or whenever it was. That’s poor.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Fizzed at him too. Given Lingard’s control is pretty decent, it doesn’t sum him up at all imo.

Lingard definitely needs to improve his productivity. Assists I’m not so bothered about but he initially looked to be a goal threat. I think he hasn’t scored since the win over Arsenal in February or whenever it was. That’s poor.

It really does - ball often bobbles up from his first touch and when he attempts a pass that has any sort of ambition often the accuracy is not good enough.

Fans are fed up of having mediocre players, who can't do the basics, occupying crucial roles in the first team, and for so long.

Originally Posted by Ranier Wolfcastle

It really does - ball often bobbles up from his first touch and when he attempts a pass that has any sort of ambition often the accuracy is not good enough.

Fans are fed up of having mediocre players, who can't do the basics, occupying crucial roles in the first team, and for so long.

Fans also inevitably focus on easy targets. For me it’s the basics Lingard specialises in

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Fans also inevitably focus on easy targets. For me it’s the basics Lingard specialises in

Like breathing?