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The choice of managers has been shocking since but they’ve all been supported financially. It happens and it happened to us when busby left, the problem is that we all have this feeling that we’ve got a divine right to win leagues and European trophies when it’s simply not the case. We didn’t do it for 26 years and we might not again for the same time and if that means changing the manager ever time it fails until we get it right then that’s football. The owners won’t make any difference. |
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No manager comes in to a blank slate. They inherit problems, otherwise the previous incumbent wouldn't have been sacked.
At least 3 that we have appointed have spoken publicly about the problems, not the owners, but the dressing room and the culture (this is partly down to the non football management). That culture has been so toxic and we can see it unfolding with Sancho and Martial as well as the previous. ETH clearly won't tolerate some of the shit that goes on so he has caused more upheaval, thankfully. We need to get the culture sorted before we can get back on track. |
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The players have been expensive flops The chief execs have been wrong for the job Having to sell before we can buy because we're sailing so close to the FFP wind But the owners are fine? You can't use the greatest manager of all time as an example of the Glazers being decent owners, that's just disingenuous. Ferguson succeeded at an Aberdeen side that didn't even have a training ground and won a European trophy v Real Madrid ffs. He was an anomaly, a genius. From what we've seen in articles recently the club has been run shambolically - over the last 10 year in particular. I would dare say that the signs were there in the later days of Ferguson's tenure, standards had started to slip already. Dragging players out of retirement to plug gaps, squeezing the absolute last drops out of Giggs, Ferdinand, Vidic, etc. There was £#%&! all succession planning. Meanwhile the other lot across Manchester were building the spine of a squad that would go on to dominate for 10 years. Being good and proper owners isn't simply finding the cash from the company coffers to throw at players when it suits. It's about a top-to-bottom strategy set up for sporting success. Getting the right people in the right positions and more importantly, getting rid of those that aren't up to it. There's absolutely none of that at United. To suggest that we should just keep rolling the dice on managers until we somehow stumble up another "Alex Ferguson" is one of the dumbest £#%&!ing things i've ever read. |
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Well you’ve just proved my point Ferguson did what he did at Aberdeen because he was a great manager. Last season everyone said ten hag did amazing because he got us to a league cup final, was that because he was a good manager or because the owners were shit?’ It’s all so contradictory.
Last month we were the form team in the league and anyone who said the manager was shit was a mug. Now we’re the worst form team in the league and it’s not the managers fault it was owners who’ve been here for nearly 20 years. |
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Maybe the club isn't set up properly for sustained success? |
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We have terrible owners, who;
Hired terrible CEO’s, who; Hired unsuitable managers, who; Bought the wrong players or couldn’t get a game out of them. All these things can be true, yet we seem to only emphasize - or offer up as a reason for all this chaos - the ones that suit us and our preferences. Ten Hag has made some terrible calls, but let’s not over-egg the flan by trying to rewrite history. Maguire was dropped because he was a catastrophe in-waiting and every centre back we had was better. Ronaldo had to go, he made sure of that and was an utter #@&%! about it. DeGea also had to go, we all knew it; the circumstances were not ten Hag’s fault. Sancho had the responsibility to act professional at all times. He gets paid an awful lot of money and represents Man Utd, not ten Hag FC. |
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Agree. But Ten Hag would probably perform better with a full squad. Maybe another manager would come in and not decide to play EVERY game (apart from Liverpool away) with a solitary DM though. O genuinely hate saying "get the manager out" because he's under the Glazers and has had terrible luck with injuries. But, he's also making some appalling decisions. |
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However, every full-time manager we’ve had since fergie has done better than he is doing this season. Our style of play is worse than it’s ever been, we’re losing more than ever, not one of our forwards is creating chances or scoring goals on a par with how they’ve done in the past, our goal difference is negative and there is even a manager who failed here doing better than ETH at a club with much fewer resources than United under the glazers. When all is said and done, this United team should easily be in the top four this season. That they’re not is primarily down to the set-up and tactics of one man, and his surname isn’t glazer. |