January Transfer Window 2022

https://twitter.com/david_ornstein/status/1487040278431215618?s=21

How many £#%&!ing forwards do Juve and Barca want?

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Still baffled as to why the Saudis, with their gigantic wealth fund worth 300 billion, weren’t even slightly interested in buying United. With a fund that big 3 billion wouldn’t even scratched the surface, Or maybe buying United would’ve brought a level of scrutiny that they wouldn’t have been comfortable with

Scrutiny, probably, but the £3-4bn to buy United is just the start. Then there’s the £500m debt. Stadium investments required, players required and training ground development. It’s a £5-6pm project for £30m a year profit. What’s the £#%&!ing point? All that is assuming the Glazers would sell for anything like £3-4bn, which the greedy @#%&!s probably wouldn’t.

Newcastle’s costs £300m, they spend £500m to get them in the CL and competitive and boom, profits and adulation roll in.

Interested to see how Arsenal manage with about 13 players for the rest of the season.

Aleksander Isak to Arsenal by the looks of it.

Only is that are adding nobody but ditching players in Jan?

Originally Posted by dunk

Aleksander Isak to Arsenal by the looks of it.

Only is that are adding nobody but ditching players in Jan?

Looks like it.

Still, think of all the wages that we’ll be saving

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Looks like it.

Still, think of all the wages that we’ll be saving

Yay!

Originally Posted by dunk

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How many £#%&!ing forwards do Juve and Barca want?



Scrutiny, probably, but the £3-4bn to buy United is just the start. Then there’s the £500m debt. Stadium investments required, players required and training ground development. It’s a £5-6pm project for £30m a year profit. What’s the £#%&!ing point? All that is assuming the Glazers would sell for anything like £3-4bn, which the greedy @#%&!s probably wouldn’t.

Newcastle’s costs £300m, they spend £500m to get them in the CL and competitive and boom, profits and adulation roll in.

Great post.

Last sentences is spot on.

The owner's will be like £#%&!ing god's to the fans when they eventually get too 4 and CL. Our fans ain't that easy to please and would be a PR nightmare...

Originally Posted by windy waffles

Great post.

Last sentences is spot on.

The owner's will be like £#%&!ing god's to the fans when they eventually get too 4 and CL. Our fans ain't that easy to please and would be a PR nightmare...

Yeah dunk makes a good point. It's far easier to appease a fan base that have never seen success, win them some trophies and be treated like saviours.

I seriously think we’re done for good tbh. We’ll never be rid of them. We’re always going to lag behind those that don’t have bills to pay and parasites to appease. Only scenario would be every other Glazer interest tanking spectacularly and their desperate need of a humungous cash influx immediately. They’d probably just remortgage us thought

The club needs to switch it’s mentality and start thinking like a Dortmund/Ajax/Milan etc. formally great that has to scrap to survive at the top table. Chasing £100m players is detrimental to the club, as is signing them more often than not. Not been many transfers for over £80m that can be considered a success anywhere, really. £#%&! all point in us as fans hoping for the problems to be sorted, they just won’t be. We’re absolutely dead in the water.

Originally Posted by dunk

I seriously think we’re done for good tbh. We’ll never be rid of them. We’re always going to lag behind those that don’t have bills to pay and parasites to appease. Only scenario would be every other Glazer interest tanking spectacularly and their desperate need of a humungous cash influx immediately. They’d probably just remortgage us thought

The club needs to switch it’s mentality and start thinking like a Dortmund/Ajax/Milan etc. formally great that has to scrap to survive at the top table. Chasing £100m players is detrimental to the club, as is signing them more often than not. Not been many transfers for over £80m that can be considered a success anywhere, really. £#%&! all point in us as fans hoping for the problems to be sorted, they just won’t be. We’re absolutely dead in the water.

Us trying to compete now with the likes of City and Liverpool is like trying to win a marathon dragging a £#%&!ing anvil behind you.

Originally Posted by dunk

I seriously think we’re done for good tbh. We’ll never be rid of them. We’re always going to lag behind those that don’t have bills to pay and parasites to appease. Only scenario would be every other Glazer interest tanking spectacularly and their desperate need of a humungous cash influx immediately. They’d probably just remortgage us thought

The club needs to switch it’s mentality and start thinking like a Dortmund/Ajax/Milan etc. formally great that has to scrap to survive at the top table. Chasing £100m players is detrimental to the club, as is signing them more often than not. Not been many transfers for over £80m that can be considered a success anywhere, really. £#%&! all point in us as fans hoping for the problems to be sorted, they just won’t be. We’re absolutely dead in the water.

100% we are finished as a football club. You could excuse all the bad results and stuff if you know the plan was to get better. There is zero ambition from the board.

We have idiots in positions they shouldn’t be in. Like our recruitment and such.

We are finished. We will occasionally have an odd cup run and a new manager every 2 years. We are essentially an exhibition team. Might pull in the odd big name.

Originally Posted by dunk

I seriously think we’re done for good tbh.

We aren't done for good but we're going to have to sink much further before we can begin to get back to where we were.

A few seasons of mid-table finishes, sponsors not renewing or reducing terms, interest from fans in Africa/Asia waning. This scenario is the only one where I can see the Glazers selling.

The worst scenario for us in being perpetual 4th/5th finishers, we'll never get rid of them.

Originally Posted by tatty

We aren't done for good but we're going to have to sink much further before we can begin to get back to where we were.

A few seasons of mid-table finishes, sponsors not renewing or reducing terms, interest from fans in Africa/Asia waning. This scenario is the only one where I can see the Glazers selling.

The worst scenario for us in being perpetual 4th/5th finishers, we'll never get rid of them.

I still don’t think that will be enough. We have a worldwide fan base . You don’t even need fans. You just need the name. Our reputation is everywhere. Nobody will forget Manchester United , it will have a following. It takes decades of that. Plus I can see us plodding along and spending just enough to make top 4. Which is what we are and have been doing .

It’s not as bad as you think, Klopp and Guardiola will be gone in the next couple of years which will level the playing field, £#%&!ing sickening to think we met both for talks and they could see we were run by £#%&!ing clowns. we just need to appoint a world class manager and improve recruitment.

Originally Posted by Vedder

It’s not as bad as you think, Klopp and Guardiola will be gone in the next couple of years which will level the playing field, £#%&!ing sickening to think we met both for talks and they could see we were run by £#%&!ing clowns. we just need to appoint a world class manager and improve recruitment.

But it won’t happen. The biggest concern is the want to do better. We need a midfielder. Zakaria is going to juve for 7 mill euros. We have been doing £#%&! all. It’s that lack of intent . We will chase Declan rice and haaland all summer. We don’t need to blockbuster all the time.

Recruitment wont change because the owners are more than happy with what they currently have. A team that can challenge for top 4 to earn the big bucks. We are doing the bare minimum and have been since fergie left.

Even in the summer, Sancho we have been chasing for two years, Ronaldo only arrived because he wanted to , it wasn’t our recruitment convincing him or juve .

Varane was a funny one as nobody else was in for him but il give them that. The year before we signed VDB and telles? Again squad players. Panicked and got cavani on a free .

What the club does best is to buy time and control the narrative . Went from moyes to lvg . Then in the opposite direction with Jose then with the club man. Finally to the guy who’s been credited with a lot of modern football. Jumping from one style and manager to another .

They don’t know what they’re doing. It’s all done to hush the fans and claim we have a new direction. We have had so many new directions I’m sure we have done a 360 by now. Ralf is knowledgeable and I think he would be a great fit for us. He already has not been given any resources and he wouldn’t get the time.

As wouldn’t the next poor £#%&!er who wants to manage us

Originally Posted by Vedder

It’s not as bad as you think, Klopp and Guardiola will be gone in the next couple of years which will level the playing field, £#%&!ing sickening to think we met both for talks and they could see we were run by £#%&!ing clowns. we just need to appoint a world class manager and improve recruitment.

Guardiola would never have taken the job here, let's get that straight. The man likes to walk into a place set up to start winning straight away, that ain't us. And we sure as £#%&! weren't going to spend 400 million on defenders and goalkeepers in the first year like he would have wanted. That was a non starter. City had been building the entire club for about 7 years with the soul aim of getting Guardiola through the door as manager, tarting themselves up like some two bob barcelona tribute act.

Klopp is more of a kicker. He'd have embraced the challenge, but our club is a horrific frankenstein's monster run by idiotic marketing £#%&!ers who had no idea what makes the man tick. If you ever wanted a how-to guide in alienating a manger, just hand over to our crack team of Richard Arnold and Ed Woodward.

Once Klopp goes, Liverpool will be in trouble, no doubt. He's a £#%&!ing amazing manager and i hate saying it. His departure will be felt right through the club and the next guy needs to work magic. City will just pass the baton over and continue winning. Like they did with Mancini to Pellegrini to Guardiola. They'll spend their way out of any sort of teething problems when Guardiola leaves and probably get a coach who will look to pick up the baton of their boring, stifling football and run with it.

The problem you've got at the moment is - how do you construct a team to compete with what it requires to be champions in the modern era. Because as we've seen in the last 3-4 years, City and Liverpool are going on 14,15,16 game winning streaks. Not unbeaten runs - winning streaks. I've never seen a United side in my life win 16 league games in a row or win 24 out of their first 25 games. How do you compete with that?

Originally Posted by Sparky***

The problem you've got at the moment is - how do you construct a team to compete with what it requires to be champions in the modern era.

start with the midfield?

The Glazers raised what 200 million selling shares on the back of Ronaldo’s signing.
This is their exit strategy…
Continue to half arse running the club and dribble out chunks of shares Utd fans all over the world will scoop them up thinking fan ownership is taking back control.
I agree we are f***ed though.

Originally Posted by jem

start with the midfield?

Bentancur & Kuzulevski from Juve for Spurs.

Ndombele, Alli and Gil out on loan.

Apparently Zakaria’s Dad and agent are asking serious money in terms of commission, hence lack of interest beyond initial enquiries from most clubs.

Originally Posted by dunk

Bentancur & Kuzulevski from Juve for Spurs.

Ndombele, Alli and Gil out on loan.

Apparently Zakaria’s Dad and agent are asking serious money in terms of commission, hence lack of interest beyond initial enquiries from most clubs.

Pretty sure we were linked with him before he left Parma for Juve?

Also wasn’t Bentancur supposed to really good not so long ago?