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Unread 06-02-2013, 12:15 PM
andyroo
 
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So we're not hopeless? Well that's good.
But... but everyone drives a shit car!
 
Unread 06-02-2013, 12:40 PM
red @rmy
 
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Van Persie's deffo due an injury imo.
Expect it to come in the international game.
 
Unread 06-02-2013, 08:12 PM
Aman27deep
 
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Seems we have Faggy just for the BBC interviews.
 
Unread 07-02-2013, 12:36 AM
Part 36 Offer
 
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ffs

in every thread on a player/coach/manager who is decent parters apparently "called it ages ago"
got an eye for talent pol. cheers for the compliment
 
Unread 07-02-2013, 01:00 AM
oohahhpaulmcgrath
 
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I've said it all along that Rene is a genius. The problem has always been Fergie.

Tbh he lost it ages ago and now seems completely clueless, but the worst thing is he has now developed a streak of cowardice, demonstrated most grotesquely at The Etihad last season, the constant selection of Valencia, and the reluctance to push youth ahead of ancient antiques like Giggs and Scholes.

If you actually look back, the style of play was only really good when Queiroz was here, as Fergie played second fiddle to the Portuguese, especially with Ronaldo at United. Fergie probably planned to play Ronaldo at left-back until Queiroz taught him how to utilise his strengths. If you think about it, old whiskey nose was clueless to Ronaldo's ability when it was staring him straight in the face during that game against Sporting; it was the players who had to tell him to sign Ronnie. "C'mon boss he's really good, honest".

Before Ronaldo we dominated with the '99 team, but that was a side that fell into Fergie's lap with Beckam, Scholes, Butt, the Nevilles etc all coming through the youth system. He basically hit the lottery with those players. If anything, Kidd and McLaren should have statues outside Old Trafford just for standing up to Fergie's stubbornness. A new 'Trinity' of Kidd, McLaren and Queiroz would have been good, but the truth has been swept under the carpet, largely because Fergie panders to the owners.

Ferguson has also got comfortable in recent years and with Phelan he's got the perfect patsy - it's like having Mr Burns and Smithers in charge of United, and we're seeing the results of nobody challenging authority.
£#%&! off and die you ungrateful bastard
 
Unread 07-02-2013, 01:16 AM
Tumescent Throb
 
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£#%&! off and die...
 
Unread 07-02-2013, 01:43 AM
Neo
 
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£#%&! off and die you ungrateful bastard
No, pol.

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Throb.
 
Unread 07-02-2013, 07:48 AM
Coracao
 
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Originally Posted by Neo
I've said it all along that Rene is a genius. The problem has always been Fergie.

Tbh he lost it ages ago and now seems completely clueless, but the worst thing is he has now developed a streak of cowardice, demonstrated most grotesquely at The Etihad last season, the constant selection of Valencia, and the reluctance to push youth ahead of ancient antiques like Giggs and Scholes.

If you actually look back, the style of play was only really good when Queiroz was here, as Fergie played second fiddle to the Portuguese, especially with Ronaldo at United. Fergie probably planned to play Ronaldo at left-back until Queiroz taught him how to utilise his strengths. If you think about it, old whiskey nose was clueless to Ronaldo's ability when it was staring him straight in the face during that game against Sporting; it was the players who had to tell him to sign Ronnie. "C'mon boss he's really good, honest".

Before Ronaldo we dominated with the '99 team, but that was a side that fell into Fergie's lap with Beckam, Scholes, Butt, the Nevilles etc all coming through the youth system. He basically hit the lottery with those players. If anything, Kidd and McLaren should have statues outside Old Trafford just for standing up to Fergie's stubbornness. A new 'Trinity' of Kidd, McLaren and Queiroz would have been good, but the truth has been swept under the carpet, largely because Fergie panders to the owners.

Ferguson has also got comfortable in recent years and with Phelan he's got the perfect patsy - it's like having Mr Burns and Smithers in charge of United, and we're seeing the results of nobody challenging authority.
I got to the point about Carlos Q and fell off my chair laughing.
 
Unread 07-02-2013, 08:37 AM
S/Side.Red
 
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If he's so great at match preparation, he should have been able to steer Fergie away from that absolute £#%&!ing suicide of a set-up at Wembley two years ago. No way RvP is getting this numpty or anyone else out of that cluser£#%&!.
 
Unread 07-02-2013, 08:38 AM
Neo
 
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I got to the point about Carlos Q and fell off my chair laughing.
Are you okay, pol? Not banged your head have ya? Close call for that braincell.
 
Unread 07-02-2013, 09:23 AM
The Watcher
 
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If he's so great at match preparation, he should have been able to steer Fergie away from that absolute £#%&!ing suicide of a set-up at Wembley two years ago. No way RvP is getting this numpty or anyone else out of that cluser£#%&!.
I thought he did a great job of preparing the players for the title run in last season
 
Unread 07-02-2013, 09:39 AM
S/Side.Red
 
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I thought he did a great job of preparing the players for the title run in last season
And this season. Look how well we've started most games, especially away from home. Preparation from Renz has been class again
 
Unread 07-02-2013, 10:02 AM
Sandman
 
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And this season. Look how well we've started most games, especially away from home. Preparation from Renz has been class again
Well we have got more points at this stage of a season, than we've ever had before
 
Unread 07-02-2013, 10:06 AM
Coracao
 
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Are you okay, pol? Not banged your head have ya? Close call for that braincell.
Wow.
 
Unread 07-02-2013, 10:44 AM
S/Side.Red
 
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Well we have got more points at this stage of a season, than we've ever had before
No real contradiction there.

Like all Fergie sides, this one has been instilled with great quality and self-belief, but it often takes them a long time to get going.

When a team regularly starts matches poorly, it suggests they aren't being especially well prepared, be it tactically or mentally. For some time we have looked a disjointed mess who rely on their superior individual quality and resilience to get the results they need.

So trying to paint this loudmouthed @#%&! as Arrigo Sacchi can get to £#%&!.
 
Unread 07-02-2013, 11:03 AM
andyroo
 
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£#%&! off and die you ungrateful bastard
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