Ivan Perisic

Originally Posted by carrick_16

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John Major used that excuse once

If 3-5-2 is the plan then Perisic becomes understandable. He is not the most sophisticated player but he is noted for his stamina, running power and delivery, key assets for a wing back.

Originally Posted by Tiberian

If 3-5-2 is the plan then Perisic becomes understandable. He is not the most sophisticated player but he is noted for his stamina, running power and delivery, key assets for a wing back.

only thing that matters is the delivery and Perisic delivers a good cross . n.forest had a winger John Robertson who was not very mobile but he delivered a superb cross and won the big trophies for them. whatever system Perisic would improve things ,if we get him that is.

Saying he's got an eye infection

https://twitter.com/ManUtdUpdates_/status/886602739140120576

Originally Posted by Sweet FA

only thing that matters is the delivery and Perisic delivers a good cross . n.forest had a winger John Robertson who was not very mobile but he delivered a superb cross and won the big trophies for them. whatever system Perisic would improve things ,if we get him that is.

We have a better example ourselves.

David Beckham had nothing about him lent itself to him being a wide player but his crossing was on another planet.

Originally Posted by Crumps

We have a better example ourselves.

David Beckham had nothing about him lent itself to him being a wide player but his crossing was on another planet.

Very true

Had a handy knack of scoring too.

Originally Posted by Crumps

We have a better example ourselves.

David Beckham had nothing about him lent itself to him being a wide player but his crossing was on another planet.

I'm not one for stats but he had something like 30 assists in the treble season. 30 ffs. What a player.

Originally Posted by 20 times

I'm not one for stats but he had something like 30 assists in the treble season. 30 ffs. What a player.

...And another opportunity to say again - respect to Keane, but IMO Beckham was United's most influential player in the Treble season.

Originally Posted by Tiberian

If 3-5-2 is the plan then Perisic becomes understandable. He is not the most sophisticated player but he is noted for his stamina, running power and delivery, key assets for a wing back.

no idea if jose fancies 3 at the back but last season at home in the league was crying out for it against the canon fodder ...

could probably get away with it sometimes only fielding 2 actual defenders.

Originally Posted by Crumps

We have a better example ourselves.

David Beckham had nothing about him lent itself to him being a wide player but his crossing was on another planet.

Beckham was much better than a good crosser ,his work rate was immense ,his free kicks were top drawer and he got more than his share of goals ,almost forgot he could score from the half way line ,a lot of players cannot kick the ball that far let alone hit the target.

Originally Posted by Sweet FA

Beckham was much better than a good crosser ,his work rate was immense ,his free kicks were top drawer and he got more than his share of goals ,almost forgot he could score from the half way line ,a lot of players cannot kick the ball that far let alone hit the target.

Sexy bastard too

Originally Posted by Sweet FA

Beckham was much better than a good crosser ,his work rate was immense ,his free kicks were top drawer and he got more than his share of goals ,almost forgot he could score from the half way line ,a lot of players cannot kick the ball that far let alone hit the target.

The reason he was played wide was his crossing ability, literally everything else about him was more suited to playing centrally (not getting infront of Keane and Scholes through was he?) and his crossing ability was much much better than 'good'. Stevie G should have had the humility to play wide as he was £#%&!ing excellent when he played there with Alonso and Mascherano in the middle.

debut v city

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

no idea if jose fancies 3 at the back but last season at home in the league was crying out for it against the canon fodder ...

could probably get away with it sometimes only fielding 2 actual defenders.

Always thought that 3 at the back needed special players in the wing back roles to make it work, then again Chelsea just waltzed to a title with Marcos Alonso and Victor Moses in those spots. Juve have had great success with it, performed to a high level in the CL using it but from 2000 onward it had barely been used at the highest level until the last couple of years.

Said a few days ago that we look overstocked at CB, thinking that Mou would mostly use a 4. Blind will be valuable if a 3 is the main system, gives a lot of tactical flexibility with his quality on the ball and intelligence, being able to switch to various positions.

3-5-2 is a formation which was made for luke shaw.

Close to completion according to Big Mig Delaney

Originally Posted by 20 times

Close to completion according to Big Mig Delaney

Big Mig knows

Originally Posted by Tiberian

Always thought that 3 at the back needed special players in the wing back roles to make it work, then again Chelsea just waltzed to a title with Marcos Alonso and Victor Moses in those spots. Juve have had great success with it, performed to a high level in the CL using it but from 2000 onward it had barely been used at the highest level until the last couple of years.

Said a few days ago that we look overstocked at CB, thinking that Mou would mostly use a 4. Blind will be valuable if a 3 is the main system, gives a lot of tactical flexibility with his quality on the ball and intelligence, being able to switch to various positions.

Think the lack of proper wingers may be starting to dictate it at the top level. They all seem to be 'wide attackers/forwards' that play on the wrong side. So that's ball playing centre halves and wide players that have the ability to attack and defend that's are becoming rare due to specialist position fads. Makelele is to blame for the whole DM thing so every defensive player who's good on the ball ended up as a midfielder, who's getting it in the neck for the death of the proper winger?

Originally Posted by Crumps

Think the lack of proper wingers may be starting to dictate it at the top level. They all seem to be 'wide attackers/forwards' that play on the wrong side. So that's ball playing centre halves and wide players that have the ability to attack and defend that's are becoming rare due to specialist position fads. Makelele is to blame for the whole DM thing so every defensive player who's good on the ball ended up as a midfielder, who's getting it in the neck for the death of the proper winger?

Ronaldo, Messi, latterly Robben and Bale, though you could probably go back as far as Henry and maybe even Ronaldinho for the start of it. Score striker level totals from wide while avoiding the physical toll that old style strikers used to endure while playing with their back to goal. Also manage to avoid the defensive responsibility that traditional wingers were accustomed to.

The death of the proper winger is tied to the death of the proper striker, why there are so few high level options around and a player with the limitations of Lukaku goes for £75 million+. Also effects the CB position, different challenge to playing that role than in years past.

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