Wan-Bissaka 2.0

Originally Posted by NedKelly

Why do we need a new right back? he’s been fantastic this season and I imagine he can keep progressing under ETH. Liverpool won the league with Trent Alexander at RB. City may well win the league with John Stones filling in at right back.

A new centre forward and a defensive midfielder are arguably all we need to really start challenging. Our first choice 11 could go toe to toe with anyone in Europe; it’s cover/squad depth that we are desperately lacking.

Agree.

I’m happy enough with him at the moment and we have more important positions to fill. I don’t think we’ll be getting a new right back this summer

Maybe Timber who can cover Central defence and RB? But I’m guessing that will be because Dalot will leave on a free not as a AWB replacement.

I’m all in on AWB. No need for a replacement for me. Who would you bring in that would make a noticeable difference right now?

Other more important positions to sort for sure.

Originally Posted by NedKelly

Why do we need a new right back? he’s been fantastic this season and I imagine he can keep progressing under ETH. Liverpool won the league with Trent Alexander at RB. City may well win the league with John Stones filling in at right back.

A new centre forward and a defensive midfielder are arguably all we need to really start challenging. Our first choice 11 could go toe to toe with anyone in Europe; it’s cover/squad depth that we are desperately lacking.

If he continues like this, then he may have solved a problem, but I’d want to see a little more than a mid season rejuvenation run in the team.

At the very least, it’s a far less pressing need than it was because of what both him and Dalot have done.

If we went into next season with a top drawer centre forward and midfielder, but no new right back, I don’t think there’d be many complaints.

It remains one of the weakest areas of the side. And 10HAG wants his full backs heavily involved in midfield, so ultimately a better footballer is required.

I don't think two players are going to cut it personally. We still have quite a few issues to resolve.

Never doubted him (well maybe once or twice), but always stood up to Grinchys relentless attacks.

Far better than Dalot, who as an aside had a terrible goal celebration. Really let himself down there.

He's £#%&!ing shit guys. He's always been £#%&!ing shit, and always will be.

And when he's sold in the summer, it won't be to Real Madrid, Barca or Bayern.

It'll be to Crystal Palace, or some equally shit team - where he belongs.

Check your standards. This is Man United.

Originally Posted by atticusgrinch

He's £#%&!ing shit guys. He's always been £#%&!ing shit, and always will be.

And when he's sold in the summer, it won't be to Real Madrid, Barca or Bayern.

It'll be to Crystal Palace, or some equally shit team - where he belongs.

Check your standards. This is Man United.

Must be hurting you this.

Originally Posted by atticusgrinch

He's £#%&!ing shit guys. He's always been £#%&!ing shit, and always will be.

And when he's sold in the summer, it won't be to Real Madrid, Barca or Bayern.

It'll be to Crystal Palace, or some equally shit team - where he belongs.

Check your standards. This is Man United.

Originally Posted by Coracao

It remains one of the weakest areas of the side. And 10HAG wants his full backs heavily involved in midfield, so ultimately a better footballer is required.

I don't think two players are going to cut it personally. We still have quite a few issues to resolve.

Originally Posted by atticusgrinch

He's £#%&!ing shit guys. He's always been £#%&!ing shit, and always will be.

And when he's sold in the summer, it won't be to Real Madrid, Barca or Bayern.

It'll be to Crystal Palace, or some equally shit team - where he belongs.

Check your standards. This is Man United.

Yep, he's improved, but I can't see him being the long term option for ETH.

Originally Posted by atticusgrinch

He's £#%&!ing shit guys. He's always been £#%&!ing shit, and always will be.

And when he's sold in the summer, it won't be to Real Madrid, Barca or Bayern.

It'll be to Crystal Palace, or some equally shit team - where he belongs.

Check your standards. This is Man United.

£50 bet says he's not sold this summer (charity of winners choosing)

Originally Posted by Gypsum Fantastic

£50 bet says he's not sold this summer (charity of winners choosing)

Make it £100 if you want?

Originally Posted by dunk

He was doing stuff like that in his first season. The amnesia from people on that first season has been incredible tbh.

Him at his worst is quite possibly the lowest level of ability on a football I've seen in a United shirt - I'm not sure I can handle a player that fluctuates that much between their worst & their best.

Getting caught under the ball, out of position just so relentlessly & not being able to pass it 5 yards to a colleague

It makes this seasons turnaround all the more remarkable, but also all the more alarming that he can fall off, let alone simply play like a capable RB for United should.

Let's add to the fact he has no goals or assists in the league or Europe all season, that miss against Everton last week with an open net was shameful.

At best, he's a back-up option if he maintains this level, or a defensive preference to do a specialist job if we're playing a side with a particularly good left winger. But full backs need more, much, much more to be able to take a side to a higher level.

At 25, I'm not sure he's suddenly adding numbers to his game that make him elite, or even as good as say Kieran Trippier.

If he can find half a dozen assists & a couple of goals in a year, fair play. He can keep the shirt, but not contributing from full back in the modern game isn't good enough.

I can picture the people impressed with Bissaka's passing and ball control gawping open mouthed when planes fly over.

Originally Posted by Baron

Him at his worst is quite possibly the lowest level of ability on a football I've seen in a United shirt - I'm not sure I can handle a player that fluctuates that much between their worst & their best.

Getting caught under the ball, out of position just so relentlessly & not being able to pass it 5 yards to a colleague

It makes this seasons turnaround all the more remarkable, but also all the more alarming that he can fall off, let alone simply play like a capable RB for United should.

Let's add to the fact he has no goals or assists in the league or Europe all season, that miss against Everton last week with an open net was shameful.

At best, he's a back-up option if he maintains this level, or a defensive preference to do a specialist job if we're playing a side with a particularly good left winger. But full backs need more, much, much more to be able to take a side to a higher level.

At 25, I'm not sure he's suddenly adding numbers to his game that make him elite, or even as good as say Kieran Trippier.

If he can find half a dozen assists & a couple of goals in a year, fair play. He can keep the shirt, but not contributing from full back in the modern game isn't good enough.

We need a more capable / creative player in that role than either AWB or Dalot. We need to improve creativity throughout the side.

A random selection of RBs across Europe in terms of offensive output. Numbers = the percentile vs other players in their position in top 5 leagues in Europe. Frimpong compared against midfielders for fairness.

Arsenal and Utd should both be looking for a right back in the summer. The full backs are going to be one of our most important positions, and we need a top level operator. One of several pieces that need to be rectified to ensure Arsenal and City aren't scoring double the number of goals we are next season.

Originally Posted by Ethers

The most ridiculous turnaround for a player I can ever remember seeing.

He genuinely looked like he’d been playing football for a couple of months at most last season.

This. I hated most of our players last season but was apoplectic with him. Thought he was the thickest footballer i'd ever seen and couldn't quite believe we forked out £50m for him.


On form he's the most consistent right back in the league for me and I wouldn't take anyone over him


Presumably, it was all down to the coaching or lack thereof. ETH has basically got him playing this inverted fullback / inside midfielder role ( ). When he popped up the other day with that chance in the 6 yard box as the furthest man forward....

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

When he popped up the other day with that chance in the 6 yard box as the furthest man forward....

you can't coach that.

Wondered whether Grinchers would double down or offer some humility.

Originally Posted by atticusgrinch

I can picture the people impressed with Bissaka's passing and ball control gawping open mouthed when planes fly over.

Do you need creativity all through the side? You can contribute to attacking okay without being a creative player. A team full of creative types would be a shit show tbh. He’s more than capable of contributing to our attacking play, you can see that from just watching him, but look at the stats for his carrier you’ve just posted. I’m more than happy for him to be involved but leave the final balls to someone else if they’re available.

Seems strange to say that 2 of the top 3 sides in the country need to be looking for a right back based purely on those stats. Meanwhile you’ve got Reece James at Chelsea who is apparently excelling statistically, but it isn’t doing them much good

Our goal scoring issues will be improved massively by signing a striker. Creating chances hasn’t been a problem for us, as all the sitters we’ve been missing attests to.

Not even sure a highly creative full-back is particularly important to ETH’s system anyway, he wouldn’t have signed Malacia if that was the profile he wanted.