Frenkie De Jong to United 95% done!

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Ak, dunk, Dr strange etc....

Stop promoting these obvious fake accounts...

I'm sure Erik will be putting a lid on it though, he hates Dutch press, in for a huge shock over here...

Absolute vultures making up ridiculous stories for clicks ..

literally me saying it’s all %@#$&!s and there’s no chance.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Ak, dunk, Dr strange etc....

Stop promoting these obvious fake accounts...

I'm sure Erik will be putting a lid on it though, he hates Dutch press, in for a huge shock over here...

Absolute vultures making up ridiculous stories for clicks ..

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1525435641797955586?t=vhgDEhnGBi5NeGagKJWGJQ&s=19

Originally Posted by Tory Dave

United as a club still brings in higher attendances than any other club on the continent, still has a higher exposure than pretty much any other club and still pays a very high salary.

Being part of a recovery would be a big draw. The self loathing really needs to stop. It’s endemic amongst certain types. You can tell most of you are remainers.

I'm not talking about exposure or attendances. I'm talking about when we go to the negotiating table for players that will more than likely be highly sought after.

We haven't won a league title in 10 years, haven't even challenged for one. Been in the Europa league in 4 of the last 6 seasons. A lot of these players in their early 20s will probably be struggling to remember when Manchester United were any £#%&!ing good. Nothing to do with self loathing, it's being realistic.

This idea that we're going to start plucking the best young talent from around Europe is fanciful and quite simply isn't going to happen.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

I'm not talking about exposure or attendances. I'm talking about when we go to the negotiating table for players that will more than likely be highly sought after.

We haven't won a league title in 10 years, haven't even challenged for one. Been in the Europa league in 4 of the last 6 seasons. A lot of these players in their early 20s will probably be struggling to remember when Manchester United were any £#%&!ing good. Nothing to do with self loathing, it's being realistic.

This idea that we're going to start plucking the best young talent from around Europe is fanciful and quite simply isn't going to happen.

It’ll help us too. We need to know our level so we’re not wasting time going for the likes of Haaland and Rice, for fees that take up our whole budget. We need a rebuild. We need 3-5 players at £20-£50m who fit a criteria of what the manager wants. Rice and the like are ‘final piece of the jigsaw’ signings. If we can improve, start consistently finishing top and look like we might actually compete for things that players want to win, then we’ll be a big draw again.

It’s acting like Billy %@#$&!s every summer that has killed the last ten years.

Originally Posted by Tory Dave

United as a club still brings in higher attendances than any other club on the continent, still has a higher exposure than pretty much any other club and still pays a very high salary.

Being part of a recovery would be a big draw. The self loathing really needs to stop. It’s endemic amongst certain types. You can tell most of you are remainers.

Post.

Originally Posted by Tory Dave

United as a club still brings in higher attendances than any other club on the continent, still has a higher exposure than pretty much any other club and still pays a very high salary.

Being part of a recovery would be a big draw. The self loathing really needs to stop. It’s endemic amongst certain types. You can tell most of you are remainers.

The only way they sign a player ahead of a madrid/Bayern/city etc is if they pay more money. That isn’t pull, it’s a player motivated by money not the club.

Of course it isn’t exactly like this for everyone but they already lost out to haaland and Bellingham when they both went to Dortmund .

Do you think mbappe would join over madrid? Or better yet haaland over city?

Manchester United is one of the biggest clubs in the world but as far as footballers choosing them over other teams will be rare . Players who come for the club not money.

If they were in the champions league then maybe but at this moment In time for next season atleast they don’t have the pull , at least to the extent you think they have.

Originally Posted by Dasilvatwins

The only way they sign a player ahead of a madrid/Bayern/city etc is if they pay more money. That isn’t pull, it’s a player motivated by money not the club.

Of course it isn’t exactly like this for everyone but they already lost out to haaland and Bellingham when they both went to Dortmund .

Do you think mbappe would join over madrid? Or better yet haaland over city?

Manchester United is one of the biggest clubs in the world but as far as footballers choosing them over other teams will be rare . Players who come for the club not money.

If they were in the champions league then maybe but at this moment In time for next season atleast they don’t have the pull , at least to the extent you think they have.

The club is big and will always appeal beyond most clubs in the same situation….but that only extends so far. Footballers are simple. They want the best contract, to play in a good team with good players, a top coach and to win.

We don’t tick all those boxes.

Players from Europe aren’t going to give a shit about an intriguing rise from the ashes. That’s our interest, nobody else’s. In the same way you’d be stunned if anyone turned down United and Fergie in the 90s because they were really keen to see Liverpool return to their heyday.

We’ll sign and I’m confident we’ll sign well, but we aren’t signing top bracket players yet. We will again, but not now and we shouldn’t be. Fees alone would take up most of our budget. We need 4-5 players above any one single player.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

The club is big and will always appeal beyond most clubs in the same situation….but that only extends so far. Footballers are simple. They want the best contract, to play in a good team with good players, a top coach and to win.

We don’t tick all those boxes.

Players from Europe aren’t going to give a shit about an intriguing rise from the ashes. That’s our interest, nobody else’s. In the same way you’d be stunned if anyone turned down United and Fergie in the 90s because they were really keen to see Liverpool return to their heyday.

We’ll sign and I’m confident we’ll sign well, but we aren’t signing top bracket players yet. We will again, but not now and we shouldn’t be. Fees alone would take up most of our budget. We need 4-5 players above any one single player.

Sheer arrogance that the club can sign anyone and anyone. Of course it’s still a big draw. But there is no way the club is signing any of the top 5/10 players in the world purely because “ they want to play for the club and bring it back to glory”

The big players they have signed over the last 6 years have all been overpaid and come for a pay day.


Di Maria , schweinstieger, falcao, Sanchez, all big names. All failed .

Ronaldo is the only one and that’s because he has an affinity for the club.

Here’s to hoping the scouting gets its shit together and the sign young quality players who are hungry to work hard and improve.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

I'm not talking about exposure or attendances. I'm talking about when we go to the negotiating table for players that will more than likely be highly sought after.

We haven't won a league title in 10 years, haven't even challenged for one. Been in the Europa league in 4 of the last 6 seasons. A lot of these players in their early 20s will probably be struggling to remember when Manchester United were any £#%&!ing good. Nothing to do with self loathing, it's being realistic.

This idea that we're going to start plucking the best young talent from around Europe is fanciful and quite simply isn't going to happen.

No that’s fair points pal, fair points

Originally Posted by Dasilvatwins

The only way they sign a player ahead of a madrid/Bayern/city etc is if they pay more money. That isn’t pull, it’s a player motivated by money not the club.

Of course it isn’t exactly like this for everyone but they already lost out to haaland and Bellingham when they both went to Dortmund .

Do you think mbappe would join over madrid? Or better yet haaland over city?

Manchester United is one of the biggest clubs in the world but as far as footballers choosing them over other teams will be rare . Players who come for the club not money.

If they were in the champions league then maybe but at this moment In time for next season atleast they don’t have the pull , at least to the extent you think they have.

Unfortunately we’ll always lose to Madrid pulling players, always been the case. Even when we were the best in Europe with Fergie in charge we still had to cope with our best player flirting with a Madrid side who go on to get absolutely pasted 4-0 by Liverpool with Lassana Diarra marshalling their midfield.

We haven’t lost out to City once since they were taken over, maybe we would never have got Haaland but that’s only because the club seems to have been distancing itself from that now dead agent (lol)…and the fact his biff of a father nearly got crippled in the stadium years ago.

Honestly, who do you think United could feasibly lose out to in the world?

Madrid
Barca
Maybe Chelsea (£#%&!ing Hazard)
PSG? Potentially
Liverpool - they were in for Sancho but never had a chance
City - until it happens, I’m saying no
Spurs -
Arsenal -
Munich - seems to be only Germans they have a hold over. Shit league, impossible language, bin

Originally Posted by Tory Dave

No that’s fair points pal, fair points



Unfortunately we’ll always lose to Madrid pulling players, always been the case. Even when we were the best in Europe with Fergie in charge we still had to cope with our best player flirting with a Madrid side who go on to get absolutely pasted 4-0 by Liverpool with Lassana Diarra marshalling their midfield.

We haven’t lost out to City once since they were taken over, maybe we would never have got Haaland but that’s only because the club seems to have been distancing itself from that now dead agent (lol)…and the fact his biff of a father nearly got crippled in the stadium years ago.

Honestly, who do you think United could feasibly lose out to in the world?

Madrid
Barca
Maybe Chelsea (£#%&!ing Hazard)
PSG? Potentially
Liverpool - they were in for Sancho but never had a chance
City - until it happens, I’m saying no
Spurs -
Arsenal -
Munich - seems to be only Germans they have a hold over. Shit league, impossible language, bin

Purely from a football perspective I just think as shit as it is players (unless they’re United fans) would pick city over United. It’s quite rare for United to pull it top players without it being a thing about money.

It just seems the track record of big players choosing United in the last 4/5 years have all been dogshit. You can add cavani in that too.

They’ve got pull to get top players, but say for e.g de Jong has a choice of United , city, Bayern, psg, or even Chelsea. There is no way he is choosing United

https://twitter.com/unitedstandmufc/status/1525574842547937280?s=21&t=HfC1wZsXpXzE0UHcvWOp1g

This mornings papers claiming he'd rather move to City than Utd if Barcelona are forced to sell.

Sign of the times I guess

Originally Posted by Pop

This mornings papers claiming he'd rather move to City than Utd if Barcelona are forced to sell.

Sign of the times I guess

Can’t blame him.

“So you’ll be just behind Kevin de Bruyne and you will have Foden and Haaland to aim for in the CL games”

Versus

“It is a new project with Schmoke and a Schlaphead and you will be relying on Fred and The Scottish Player to provide cover as you slip it to our strikers as we fight W Ham for 6th.”

Murder the lot of them.

Originally Posted by Pop

This mornings papers claiming he'd rather move to City than Utd if Barcelona are forced to sell.

Sign of the times I guess

Of course he would. We last won a title when he was 15 and city hoover up everything. To everyone outside of us, they’re more of a draw. We’re hardly gonna attract top European talent by showing them the £#%&!ing Munich tunnel.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

Of course he would. We last won a title when he was 15 and city hoover up everything. To everyone outside of us, they’re more of a draw. We’re hardly gonna attract top European talent by showing them the £#%&!ing Munich tunnel.

Well a bloke he respects as an upcoming coach, mentioned as Peps possible successor, has just chosen us and in doing so mentioning the Munich story as part of the history he wanted to be involved in the challenge of.

Klopp managed to attract enough talent to kick start them @#%&!s with a history of pleghm, Stanley knives and Tommy Smith taking penalties on disability benefits

If we have the set up we have the pull. We’re the biggest £#%&!ing club in the world.

Originally Posted by The taste of...

Well a bloke he respects as an upcoming coach, mentioned as Peps possible successor, has just chosen us and in doing so mentioning the Munich story as part of the history he wanted to be involved in the challenge of.

Klopp managed to attract enough talent to kick start them @#%&!s with a history of pleghm, Stanley knives and Tommy Smith taking penalties on disability benefits

If we have the set up we have the pull. We’re the biggest £#%&!ing club in the world.

Klopp wasn’t signing Barca midfielders for £50m+ in his first season. They bought up and coming players around the £30-£40m mark and that’s exactly what we should be doing.

We are still a draw and I’m sure ETH will be an attractive proposition, but we really shouldn’t be surprised that players want to join City over us.

And Real Madrid are the biggest club in the world.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

Klopp wasn’t signing Barca midfielders for £50m+ in his first season. They bought up and coming players around the £30-£40m mark and that’s exactly what we should be doing.

We are still a draw and I’m sure ETH will be an attractive proposition, but we really shouldn’t be surprised that players want to join City over us.

And Real Madrid are the biggest club in the world.

As the saying go’s there is more that unites us than divides us, I agree with
What you say especially for a 27 yrs and older player wanting medals and cash. For this guy though he loves ETH and could really make a mark in a story. Him being signed could also trigger all those 30 - 40 million signings

If he's that good why are barca letting him go?


They could raise money by selling others surely