If we could sell a few players in January and spend the cash

Originally Posted by borsuk

:shakehead:


whatever problems the club has, fergie isn't one of them.


ffs.

not saying it is. but the way things are going with the club, i think he should bow out before it gets messy.

nft.

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop

Agreed.
Obertan, Nani, Gibson aren't United standard and Anderson is a headless chicken.

with square boots.

Originally Posted by naes_sean

with square boots.

And a fat duck arse

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop

Agreed.
Obertan, Nani, Gibson aren't United standard and Anderson is a headless chicken.

are we writing obertan off now? ffs.

Well, that he was utter, utter shite yesterday is undeniable

Too many of our non-first XI look good when the team is playing well - but totally fail to make the step up when it is required (and yes, Anderson, that includes you)

Originally Posted by naes_sean

with square boots.

Never seen anyone so shit at shooting. Never.

Originally Posted by borsuk

are we writing obertan off now? ffs.

I like him but I don't think he's up to this level. Seems all pace litte ability. Would love to be proven wrong.

A little bit of a shake up, 1 CM, 1 Winger and 1 CF, all of the standard to be in the mix for the 1st XI week in week out, is what I would like to see.

I've been bitching about the midfield since '07 though, can't see anything changing anytime soon.

Build the team around:

Fabio/Rafael Evans Evra

Fletcher

Rooney



shit - thats not very good is it?

re. obertan, thought he was poor first half, however he always seems to play much better on the left and when he switched over in the second half he looked much better, in fact i would have given himself and wellbeck another ten minutes or so, obertan is young and in his first season i'd give him more time, occasionally looks more than promising but is inconsistent.

Originally Posted by Stickman

Build the team around:

Fabio/Rafael Evans Evra

Fletcher

Rooney



shit - thats not very good is it?

I'd settle for Ferguson quitting changing 4/5 of the team from game to game.

Good football comes from settled teams.

I think I'd leave Neville and, perhaps, Scholes leave given their wages.

I don't think Berbatov has shown any sign of being an effective No 10 for us.
Nani has been poorly treated, for me, and now there is no chance of him developing the confidence to play for Utd.
The latter two could be included in swap deals, the former, I'd rather see youngsters get a game instead - just not all at once like yesterday.

Would it not be fairer on Anderson and Gibson to give them opportunities alongside Carrick and Fletcher respectively?

I think it would be 'fairer' to just put Gibson down tbh.

Out:
Anderson: £12m
Nani: £10m
Gibson: £8m
Tosic: £5m
Welbeck: £9m

= £44m

In:
Villa: £30m
Silva: £20m

= £50m

That would mean a net spend of £6m so it's obviously never going to happen. In the real world, we'll get rid of all of the above and sign Les Ferdinand and Di Canio. Fergie will say that he feels both can still 'do a job'

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop

Agreed.
Obertan, Nani, Gibson aren't United standard and Anderson is a headless chicken.

Obertan hasn't had enough pitch time yet.He was only supposed to be a reserve journeyman but unfortunately for him showed so much promise in his first outing that everyone now expects him to be a superstar. Give him time, Ronaldo was shit in many matches in his first season.

Gibson was never going to be a regular first teamer, Fergie plays him so that he's in the shop window and he'll be gone as soon as we get a good offer.

Nani... I don't know what to say. Completly unpredictable but cetainly suffering a crisis of confidence. Better to sell and try to get our money back on him.

Berbles though....

Think Fegie could patch it up with Ruud ?

Originally Posted by Lok

Out:
Anderson: £12m
Nani: £10m
Gibson: £8m
Tosic: £5m
Welbeck: £9m

Lets be realistic

Each player you've mentioned would fetch about half that.

Originally Posted by Lok

Out:
Anderson: £12m
Nani: £10m
Gibson: £8m
Tosic: £5m
Welbeck: £9m

= £44m
'

Originally Posted by Stickman

Lets be realistic

Each player you've mentioned would fetch about half that.

Don't think they're that stupid. We got £6m for Richardson ffs!

Originally Posted by Lok

Don't think they're that stupid. We got £6m for Richardson ffs!

They're really optimistic prices in the current market.

Selling all our young players is a dumb idea as well.

Out - Nani and Anderson
In - Modric and Joe Cole, or some foreign attacking midfielder that Borsuk has heard of.