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Unread 30-12-2021, 11:25 AM
jem
 
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can't really disagree with any of patty's comments, except for ronaldo. we need to see past what he was to what he is. if he picks the ball up on the half-way line, he is less likely to score than rashford.
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 11:27 AM
Bion
 
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No Fergie
Shades of Leeds Utd under Clough
Players are disrespecting the club & supporters
But frankly, most not good enough at all
Seriously, how many of our players would Pep,Tuchel or Klopp play?
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 11:27 AM
jem
 
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Ferguson once masterminded a title win with a distinctly average Man United squad

He could have sailed peacefully into retirement with a trophy-less season

But instead he delivered another Premier League title, the 13th of his Old Trafford reign, and he did it with arguably the weakest Man United squad of the Premier League era…

and how he do it?

One red hot forward, a bunch of misfiring midfielders, two ageing legends, a decent defence and a super sub equals a title win

so whats up with this £#%&!ed up bunch?
maybe it's the quality of the other teams at the top? our last title was by default.
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 11:31 AM
AK14
 
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Squad needs gutting. Can't be arsed with the hope that some magical person can come in and turn shit into gold. We're Arsenal for the past decade until we sort the squad out. Full of mards and 'tards.

De Gea - Keep
Henderson - Backup or £#%&! off
Heaton - Why do we have two backup keepers?
Grant - Who the £#%&! are you?

Lindelof - Backup
Bailly - £#%&! off
Jones - £#%&! off
Maguire - Remove captaincy and backup if he's still shit
Mengi - Promote
Varane - Keep

Shaw - Backup
Telles - £#%&! off
Wan-Bissaka - £#%&! off
Dalot - Backup

Pogba - £#%&! off
Fred - £#%&! off
Fernandes - Keep
Matic - £#%&! off
DVB - Backup
The Scottish Player - Backup
Lingard - £#%&! off
Mata -

Cavani - Backup for this season and then £#%&!ed off
Martial - £#%&! off
Rashford - Backup
Greenwood - Our best player
Sancho - Keep
Ronaldo - Keep & Captain

Captaincy needs to be taken off Maguire, and if he's still shit then he needs to be seated on the bench and someone proper bought in.

Buy new wingbacks.

Buy some £#%&!ing midfielders.

Ronaldo, Greenwood and Sancho are the preferred front three. You don't become a bad team by bringing Ronaldo in. He's singlehandedly dragged us to the knockouts of the Champions League ffs.

Amad, Elanga and Shoretire should get more starts, Rashford should be limited to sub appearances until he starts performing. And if he doesn't, £#%&! him off. Martial should never be seen in United kit ever again.
Hard to disagree with any of that tbh

We’re up shits creek
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 11:31 AM
silv
 
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can't really disagree with any of patty's comments, except for ronaldo. we need to see past what he was to what he is. if he picks the ball up on the half-way line, he is less likely to score than rashford.
Rashford is £#%&!
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 11:32 AM
Denis Irwell
 
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Originally Posted by Bion
Shades of Leeds Utd under Clough
Players are disrespecting the club & supporters
But frankly, most not good enough at all
Seriously, how many of our players would Pep,Tuchel or Klopp play?
Point taken but tbh, still baffled how we’ve fallen off a cliff since the super league debacle, having added CR, Sancho and Varane
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 11:33 AM
jem
 
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Rashford is £#%&!
maybe read my comment in that context, then.

rashford is not £#%&!, though.
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 11:33 AM
Patty_b
 
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Originally Posted by Bion
Ferguson once masterminded a title win with a distinctly average Man United squad

He could have sailed peacefully into retirement with a trophy-less season

But instead he delivered another Premier League title, the 13th of his Old Trafford reign, and he did it with arguably the weakest Man United squad of the Premier League era…

and how he do it?

One red hot forward, a bunch of misfiring midfielders, two ageing legends, a decent defence and a super sub equals a title win

so whats up with this £#%&!ed up bunch?
I think you're underplaying what happened that season a bit.

It wasn't the strongest squad in the world on paper, but we had the greatest ever manager in charge of players like RVP, Rooney, Rio, Vidic, Evra, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs and De Gea. Some may have been on the decline and not played the majority of the games, but they were still world class players that formed a formidable spine of experience and ability throughout the squad. Even with players like Nani, Hernandes, Rafael and Valencia who may not have been considered the strongest players in the team were great players.

Now we've got a hodgepodge of overpaid, mediocre players purchased under 5 different managers for reasons ranging from 'stopping City from getting them first', to 'just think of the marketing potential!'.

Nothing sums up our squad and the way this club is run like Paul Pogba. A player that was a transfer record signing on top wages that has put in single digit noteworthy performances over 5 years, and regularly lets his agent talk about how much he wants to leave and how much better he is than United. And we're looking to give that gimp a new contract before he disappears on a free.

We're and absolute £#%&!ing shambles on and off the pitch.
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 11:34 AM
Bion
 
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Point taken but tbh, still baffled how we’ve fallen off a cliff since the super league debacle, having added CR, Sancho and Varane
If I’m playing for ManUtd

I’m training every day looking at pictures and seeing legends all around me.
If that doesn’t inspire me to leave my heart and soul on that pitch then nothing ever will.

These players need to start playing for the name on the front of the shirt!
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 11:38 AM
Denis Irwell
 
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If I’m playing for ManUtd

I’m training every day looking at pictures and seeing legends all around me.
If that doesn’t inspire me to leave my heart and soul on that pitch then nothing ever will.

These players need to start playing for the name on the front of the shirt!
They’re more interested in the name on the back of the shirt
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 12:30 PM
Coracao
 
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I think you're underplaying what happened that season a bit.

It wasn't the strongest squad in the world on paper, but we had the greatest ever manager in charge of players like RVP, Rooney, Rio, Vidic, Evra, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs and De Gea. Some may have been on the decline and not played the majority of the games, but they were still world class players that formed a formidable spine of experience and ability throughout the squad. Even with players like Nani, Hernandes, Rafael and Valencia who may not have been considered the strongest players in the team were great players.

Now we've got a hodgepodge of overpaid, mediocre players purchased under 5 different managers for reasons ranging from 'stopping City from getting them first', to 'just think of the marketing potential!'.

Nothing sums up our squad and the way this club is run like Paul Pogba. A player that was a transfer record signing on top wages that has put in single digit noteworthy performances over 5 years, and regularly lets his agent talk about how much he wants to leave and how much better he is than United. And we're looking to give that gimp a new contract before he disappears on a free.

We're and absolute £#%&!ing shambles on and off the pitch.
He'd have been binned like Veron after 2 seasons if we were semi competent.
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 12:34 PM
shenwen
 
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He'd have been binned like Veron after 2 seasons if we were semi competent.
This is where the difference with Fergie comes in. So many players stealing a living. Why? Because they can. We’re on our fourth manager since Fergie and Phil jones is still here and getting paid.

And agree with Patty. That last title team had issues but was a big step up from this bunch in terms of character and experience.
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 01:21 PM
redhegemony
 
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What has happened to Shaw?
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 01:24 PM
Mr Kaboom
 
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What has happened to Shaw?
Off to Chelsea
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 01:24 PM
Patty_b
 
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What has happened to Shaw?
Same thing that happened with Maguire and Fernandes, and loads of other players over the past few years. Our players are cursed to turn to shit.
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 01:29 PM
redhegemony
 
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Same thing that happened with Maguire and Fernandes, and loads of other players over the past few years. Our players are cursed to turn to shit.
A few months ago he was England's best left now just disappeared...another who we can't rely on.

Isn't that the difference with Fergie's players - he knew he could rely on them to give 100% effort and commitment? How many of those have we got 3 or 4?
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 01:33 PM
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We had a manager who tried to instill some standards and discipline, and get rid of the wasters.

He's vilified on here.
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 01:35 PM
NedKelly
 
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We had a manager who tried to install some standards and discipline, and get rid of the wasters.

He's vilified on here.
Still gutted he left mate. Oh what could have been.

 
Unread 30-12-2021, 01:38 PM
Patty_b
 
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A few months ago he was England's best left now just disappeared...another who we can't rely on.

Isn't that the difference with Fergie's players - he knew he could rely on them to give 100% effort and commitment? How many of those have we got 3 or 4?
Yep, none of these players would have been getting away with disappearing in as many games as they do over the past 8 years if they were sharing a dressing room with the leaders we had under Fergie.

None of them seem to want to step up.

Give the armband to Ronaldo, all well and good slating him for gesticulating at teammates, but at least he looks like he gives a shit.
 
Unread 30-12-2021, 01:40 PM
redhegemony
 
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We had a manager who tried to instill some standards and discipline, and get rid of the wasters.

He's vilified on here.
Also coached shit and dull football. Also signed Mkhitaryan, Lukaku, Pogba and Sanchez and of course Fred.
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