Ole

The acceptance of mediocrity is running deep within the club from top to bottom, unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Coracao

The acceptance of mediocrity is running deep within the club from top to bottom, unfortunately.

Are you proposing people deny we are mediocre?

Originally Posted by The Stella Fella

So many criticisms Marlo so seriously what is the solution?
New Manager - who would you choose?
Pogba - what would you do?
Who would you REALISTICALLY sign?

id stop with the defeatist attitude ole is instilling in the club and has now spread to the fans.
we didn't start the season at some sort of handicap.
he had a full preseason and 6 months at the back end of the last season to know what was needed to at least make up competent this season.
-he sold players he didn't want or who didn't want to be here. (didn't replace them)
-he promoted the young players he thought we good enough (3 of them are no where to be seen these days despite us being low on numbers)
-he has had a full year to transfer his philosophy and style of play onto our team (the high press he said he needed a preseason to implement?)
-he spent 150m on our squad and has repeatedly said he has the final say on transfers and hasn't be denied funds

Brendan Rodgers has had less time at Leicester, took over when they were below us but has them playing good football, didn't spend too much in the summer and they are above us and arguably in better shape.

look at Liverpools midfield....would anyone be wishing we'd sign 'wijnaldum' , 'henderson' and 'Fabinho'
its the way the manager has them play and their application that makes those three such a good and effective midfield.
a manager with a plan, with some tactics not just soundbites pulling the heartstrings of idiots who still think a one off managerial miracle can be replicated 20 years later.
some won't realise that until we get a few good players and still play like strangers or attack with absolutely zero purpose....

Originally Posted by marlo

id stop with the defeatist attitude ole is instilling in the club and has now spread to the fans.
we didn't start the season at some sort of handicap.
he had a full preseason and 6 months at the back end of the last season to know what was needed to at least make up competent this season.
-he sold players he didn't want or who didn't want to be here. (didn't replace them)
-he promoted the young players he thought we good enough (3 of them are no where to be seen these days despite us being low on numbers)
-he has had a full year to transfer his philosophy and style of play onto our team (the high press he said he needed a preseason to implement?)
-he spent 150m on our squad and has repeatedly said he has the final say on transfers and hasn't be denied funds

Brendan Rodgers has had less time at Leicester, took over when they were below us but has them playing good football, didn't spend too much in the summer and they are above us and arguably in better shape.

look at Liverpools midfield....would anyone be wishing we'd sign 'wijnaldum' , 'henderson' and 'Fabinho'
its the way the manager has them play and their application that makes those three such a good and effective midfield.
a manager with a plan, with some tactics not just soundbites pulling the heartstrings of idiots who still think a one off managerial miracle can be replicated 20 years later.
some won't realise that until we get a few good players and still play like strangers or attack with absolutely zero purpose....

Some good points there, and only one spelling mistake.

Originally Posted by marlo

id stop with the defeatist attitude ole is instilling in the club and has now spread to the fans.
we didn't start the season at some sort of handicap.
he had a full preseason and 6 months at the back end of the last season to know what was needed to at least make up competent this season.
-he sold players he didn't want or who didn't want to be here. (didn't replace them)
-he promoted the young players he thought we good enough (3 of them are no where to be seen these days despite us being low on numbers)
-he has had a full year to transfer his philosophy and style of play onto our team (the high press he said he needed a preseason to implement?)
-he spent 150m on our squad and has repeatedly said he has the final say on transfers and hasn't be denied funds

Brendan Rodgers has had less time at Leicester, took over when they were below us but has them playing good football, didn't spend too much in the summer and they are above us and arguably in better shape.

look at Liverpools midfield....would anyone be wishing we'd sign 'wijnaldum' , 'henderson' and 'Fabinho'
its the way the manager has them play and their application that makes those three such a good and effective midfield.
a manager with a plan, with some tactics not just soundbites pulling the heartstrings of idiots who still think a one off managerial miracle can be replicated 20 years later.
some won't realise that until we get a few good players and still play like strangers or attack with absolutely zero purpose....

Fabinho was the nuts at Monaco. Genuinely think he’s been one of their most important signings.

Originally Posted by marlo

id stop with the defeatist attitude ole is instilling in the club and has now spread to the fans.
we didn't start the season at some sort of handicap.
he had a full preseason and 6 months at the back end of the last season to know what was needed to at least make up competent this season.
-he sold players he didn't want or who didn't want to be here. (didn't replace them)
-he promoted the young players he thought we good enough (3 of them are no where to be seen these days despite us being low on numbers)
-he has had a full year to transfer his philosophy and style of play onto our team (the high press he said he needed a preseason to implement?)
-he spent 150m on our squad and has repeatedly said he has the final say on transfers and hasn't be denied funds

Brendan Rodgers has had less time at Leicester, took over when they were below us but has them playing good football, didn't spend too much in the summer and they are above us and arguably in better shape.

look at Liverpools midfield....would anyone be wishing we'd sign 'wijnaldum' , 'henderson' and 'Fabinho'
its the way the manager has them play and their application that makes those three such a good and effective midfield.
a manager with a plan, with some tactics not just soundbites pulling the heartstrings of idiots who still think a one off managerial miracle can be replicated 20 years later.
some won't realise that until we get a few good players and still play like strangers or attack with absolutely zero purpose....

He didn't replace players and has the final say on transfers

Originally Posted by NedKelly

Fabinho was the nuts at Monaco. Genuinely think he’s been one of their most important signings.

Yep.

Apparently both Van Gaal and Mourinho wanted him but we’re told no?

Top player.

Originally Posted by Street Magician

Is Nasri free?

Originally Posted by Stickman

"For me now, we've lost to Liverpool, a team that you all say are fantastic and we've been in the game until the last kick of the ball," Solskjaer said. "And, for me, that's strides forward."

Seriously, if it were any other manager....some of you lot need to seperate Ole the player from Ole the manager.

If your face fits eh.

My thoughs exactly! some of the blinkered morons on here are unbelievable.
Imagine if Moyes said and acted like this in his tenure.

Originally Posted by redhegemony

If we'd come back having been dominated hopefully with a dodgy VAR goal I'd have laughed my socks off.

Sometimes in football you get dodgy results - this wasn't one and we don't want to be best losers we want to be up there turning the £#%&!ers over and shoving City back down. Years of under investment and poor recruitment have got us here - it's not going to be fixed overnight.

1. Spurs - took Pochetino 3 years at spurs to clear out the crap and build a team. And look at them now - key players wanting to go. Think he'd do better with Woodward?

2. Liverpool - last won the League in 1990 yes 1990 we were £#%&!ing 13th - 31 points behind. They have been shocking since - finished 8th 3 times. Fair £#%&!s to Klopp he's done an amazing job.

[SIZE="5"]We need some stability, some vision and a lot of investment not quick fixes - we know that from our years in the wilderness.

We also need an experienced manager at the helm above all things, Not the ex manager of a Norwegian pub league, Wake up and smell the coffee and ry to seperate Ole the player fron Ole the (shit) manager

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Den lawless

Despite his foibles, den was never this consistently negative or gormless.

Originally Posted by Whiteside onside

My thoughs exactly! some of the blinkered morons on here are unbelievable.
Imagine if Moyes said and acted like this in his tenure.



We also need an experienced manager at the helm above all things, Not the ex manager of a Norwegian pub league, Wake up and smell the coffee and ry to seperate Ole the player fron Ole the (shit) manager

If only Mourinho and LVG had had some experience

Originally Posted by Whiteside onside

My thoughs exactly! some of the blinkered morons on here are unbelievable.
Imagine if Moyes said and acted like this in his tenure.



We also need an experienced manager at the helm above all things, Not the ex manager of a Norwegian pub league, Wake up and smell the coffee and ry to seperate Ole the player fron Ole the (shit) manager

What were Van Gaal and Mourinho, £#%&!ing novices?

Originally Posted by rubbernecker

If only Mourinho and LVG had had some experience

It's all about giving them time both won trophies, Ole will win £#%&! all because he's a pub league manager

Originally Posted by 92ToBury

What were Van Gaal and Mourinho, £#%&!ing novices?

mumbles something about Dario Gradi

Originally Posted by andyroo

mumbles something about Dario Gradi

Poch in the summer according to all the rumours.

Originally Posted by Whiteside onside

It's all about giving them time both won trophies, Ole will win £#%&! all because he's a pub league manager

Louis Van Gaal was at the club for two years, won an FA Cup and played shite football.

Mourinho was at the club for 2 and a half years and won a Europa League and League Cup, and played cowardly shite football.

Between them they filled the club with overpaid useless shite.

Ole has been at the club for 13 months, (10 months permanently), not had the chance to win any £#%&!ing trophies yet (other than the Champions League last season, taking us past PSG that no £#%&!er expected him to do), trying to play pacey attacking football and replace the shit that the club have recruited before he was manager.

'Should've given them time'. What a weapon

Originally Posted by Patty_b

'Should've given them time'. What a weapon

I know right!
Stupid Roy Keane!

Originally Posted by marlo

id stop with the defeatist attitude ole is instilling in the club and has now spread to the fans.
we didn't start the season at some sort of handicap.
he had a full preseason and 6 months at the back end of the last season to know what was needed to at least make up competent this season.
-he sold players he didn't want or who didn't want to be here. (didn't replace them)
-he promoted the young players he thought we good enough (3 of them are no where to be seen these days despite us being low on numbers)
-he has had a full year to transfer his philosophy and style of play onto our team (the high press he said he needed a preseason to implement?)
-he spent 150m on our squad and has repeatedly said he has the final say on transfers and hasn't be denied funds

Brendan Rodgers has had less time at Leicester, took over when they were below us but has them playing good football, didn't spend too much in the summer and they are above us and arguably in better shape.

look at Liverpools midfield....would anyone be wishing we'd sign 'wijnaldum' , 'henderson' and 'Fabinho'
its the way the manager has them play and their application that makes those three such a good and effective midfield.
a manager with a plan, with some tactics not just soundbites pulling the heartstrings of idiots who still think a one off managerial miracle can be replicated 20 years later.
some won't realise that until we get a few good players and still play like strangers or attack with absolutely zero purpose....

This is spot on for me.

You can throw in most of their squad to that tbh. Even the front 3 are playing above themselves. For me, he didn’t just sign 3 world class players there.

I thought Oxlade Chamberlain was a joke at Arsenal, look at even him now
A lot more than people are willing to concede is down to the management.

Originally Posted by Patty_b

Louis Van Gaal was at the club for two years, won an FA Cup and played shite football.

Mourinho was at the club for 2 and a half years and won a Europa League and League Cup, and played cowardly shite football.

Between them they filled the club with overpaid useless shite.

Ole has been at the club for 13 months, (10 months permanently), not had the chance to win any £#%&!ing trophies yet (other than the Champions League last season, taking us past PSG that no £#%&!er expected him to do), trying to play pacey attacking football and replace the shit that the club have recruited before he was manager.

'Should've given them time'. What a weapon

Sorry, the football is still £#%&!ing awful We still have the same issues we have had under Van Gaal and Mourinho. A team who do not look like they are coached, and struggle if teams just let us have the ball, as we struggle to create openings.