Antonio Valencia

Originally Posted by Ranier Wolfcastle

Fergie's signings post 07

Originally Posted by messhead

Honestly think LVG was a better manager for us than Mou. Most of the players seemed on board with him and he won the FA cup, our first trophy post-fergie and definitley the one with the most prestige in my opinion. He also had a clear plan, it didn't work out, but it was obvious what he was trying to implement. Everything you could criticise LvG for your could do the same with Mou but worse (shit signings, boring football etc).

Except when they stopped playing for him, but let's draw a veil over that shall we

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Except when they stopped playing for him, but let's draw a veil over that shall we

Did they stop playing for him or did they just not have the ability to do what was asked? I mean we totally capitulated under Mourinho when the players blatantly stopped giving a shit, whereas we still managed to win the FA cup at the end of LVG's tenure. No excuses for how boring the football was, and I think his "philosophy" was always at odds with what we perceive the club to be about, but having seen what we've seen in hindsight from the shithouses clogging our team up I'd be more inclined to believe that they just weren't up to what he was asking of them.

Originally Posted by messhead

Did they stop playing for him or did they just not have the ability to do what was asked? I mean we totally capitulated under Mourinho when the players blatantly stopped giving a shit, whereas we still managed to win the FA cup at the end of LVG's tenure. No excuses for how boring the football was, and I think his "philosophy" was always at odds with what we perceive the club to be about, but having seen what we've seen in hindsight from the shithouses clogging our team up I'd be more inclined to believe that they just weren't up to what he was asking of them.

He's been gone 3 years ffs. Get over it.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

He's been gone 3 years ffs. Get over it.

I'm the happiest I've been post-fergie since Ole came on board...

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Except when they stopped playing for him, but let's draw a veil over that shall we

Won 9 of his last 12 games.

Originally Posted by messhead

Did they stop playing for him or did they just not have the ability to do what was asked? I mean we totally capitulated under Mourinho when the players blatantly stopped giving a shit, whereas we still managed to win the FA cup at the end of LVG's tenure. No excuses for how boring the football was, and I think his "philosophy" was always at odds with what we perceive the club to be about, but having seen what we've seen in hindsight from the shithouses clogging our team up I'd be more inclined to believe that they just weren't up to what he was asking of them.

More honest

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Won 9 of his last 12 games.

Turned it round by doing a Theresa May and making it clear he wouldn't be around forever, was a bit more successful in it than she has been tbf

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Turned it round by doing a Theresa May and making it clear he wouldn't be around forever, was a bit more successful in it than she has been tbf

Agreed.

Don't need Valencia anymore. Have Young doing a great impression of the lad.

Could be getting some game time Sunday according to Ole.

Originally Posted by AK14

Could be getting some game time Sunday according to Ole.

deserves it. standing o, subbed on 88 after scoring.

No matter what you think of Valencia it's bizarre he hasn't played more under Ole considering the alternative is an absolutely gassed Young.

Originally Posted by jem

deserves it. standing o, subbed on 88 after scoring.

Or in the real world, getting an axe thrown at him as he steps off the coach

Was never the same after breaking his leg IMHO. His crossing has been hash and I think I saw him use his left foot to cross the ball twice

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

No matter what you think of Valencia it's bizarre he hasn't played more under Ole considering the alternative is an absolutely gassed Young.

There is clearly something wrong that we don't know about.

Be it personal, a falling out with somebody at the club or whatever...but he's played for his country in the time that he was "injured"

Either way, goodbye...you should have left years ago & signing you at the time we did is the embodiment of the Glazers.

Who was it that called Mourinho out on the way he treated Valencia?

Something about him being “the nicest man in football” was mentioned?

Still hasn’t played a game and Mourinho’s been gone five months

Originally Posted by Mr_Ed

Was never the same after breaking his leg IMHO. His crossing has been hash and I think I saw him use his left foot to cross the ball twice

Had his best season for us after breaking his leg.
Saying he was never the same is the biggest myth since Keane ending Haalands career

Originally Posted by AK14

Who was it that called Mourinho out on the way he treated Valencia?

Something about him being “the nicest man in football” was mentioned?

Still hasn’t played a game and Mourinho’s been gone five months

Played at Newcastle tbf. But yea, something has gone on, strange that nothing has been leaked by either side.

Originally Posted by AK14

Who was it that called Mourinho out on the way he treated Valencia?

Something about him being “the nicest man in football” was mentioned?

Still hasn’t played a game and Mourinho’s been gone five months

mou must have really hurt him.

Originally Posted by wiganste

Had his best season for us after breaking his leg.
Saying he was never the same is the biggest myth since Keane ending Haalands career

Yep absolute fallacy.

Was our player of the season in 11-12 when he came back after the ankle break. It’s an excuse people make for his descent into terminal cowardice,