Wolves v Manchester United Official Match Thread

Originally Posted by Cream

He should attend a United game to get a bird's eye view of Lingard. Fair's fair.

Take Lingard out and put a player like neves in behind Pogba and The Scottish Player and we’d be a much better balanced side imo.

Originally Posted by Clownbones

I dont think there's anything wrong with letting them decide, just decide! BEFORE the game.

there's nothing wrong with having two designated takers if they are both good. pogba keeps missing, though.

his run to draw the foul was superb, though. that's what we want him doing.

Originally Posted by Buck

He's like when Fergie stuck Jones in the middle of the park "to do a job". Can stick his foot in, get his body in the way and generally be busy but you're not getting someone who takes the ball under pressure and tries to play.

Yup, Jason Park, Phil Neville type player. Would be happy if he was as good as Fletcher, but he's not

Originally Posted by Dasilvatwins

Maybe he will shit in his mouth like the one that did ashley young

Originally Posted by Cream

Originally Posted by AK14

That’s %@#$&!s tbf

He’s done that on more than one occasion

He was shit tonight though.

Name 5 games where he's controlled the game with the ball at feet rather than just be a busy bee. Nothing wrong with being that but he's a midfielder whose best qualities are intangibles.

Originally Posted by Albert Tatlock

Yup, Jason Park, Phil Neville type player. Would be happy if he was as good as Fletcher, but he's not

Every squad needs those players. Fletcher was outstanding for a short period pre-illness too since he elevated his game adding some attacking use too. Not ruling The Scottish Player out, that's a great example to follow.

We need to show some patience here lads. We are trying to shift more than a whole team of wasters that we've accumulated over 10 years while rebuilding on a finite budget and phasing in players from the academy.

Agree with Neville who post match said he likes the team now and the way they're trying to play but it's an 18 month to 2 year journey back to the top.

Originally Posted by Buck

Name 5 games where he's controlled the game with the ball at feet rather than just be a busy bee. Nothing wrong with being that but he's a midfielder whose best qualities are intangibles.

That’s not what you said though is it?

You said bring the ball down and look to play, which he does do regularly. Actually did it tonight when taking the ball from De gea when under pressure.

He’s more than just a busy bee or a Phill Jones () under Fergie, but playing deeper midfield as part of a two isn’t his or Pogba’s best positions.

Originally Posted by Big Norm

We need to show some patience here lads. We are trying to shift more than a whole team of wasters that we've accumulated over 10 years while rebuilding on a finite budget and phasing in players from the academy.

Agree with Neville who post match said he likes the team now and the way they're trying to play but it's an 18 month to 2 year journey back to the top.

Good post.

Originally Posted by AK14

That’s not what you said though is it?

You said bring the ball down and look to play, which he does do regularly. Actually did it tonight when taking the ball from De gea when under pressure.

He’s more than just a busy bee or a Phill Jones () under Fergie, but playing deeper midfield as part of a two isn’t his or Pogba’s best positions.



Good post.

Jesus £#%&!ing christ i'm talking about getting the ball and trying to do something beyond the most basic "get it and give it to the nearest guy". Doesn't have to always be raking passes but try carry it forward a bit into the opposition half, a few riskier passes. forward passes. He is fine in games where we need the body to break up play and possession is going to be close to 50-50 but he needs to add something else to his game on the ball. Against Palace at home this weekend I'd put in another attacking minded player since we'll have much more possession.

i think we'll comfortably qualify for the champions league. should've won that but we would've lost it in the past.

Originally Posted by Big Norm

We need to show some patience here lads. We are trying to shift more than a whole team of wasters that we've accumulated over 10 years while rebuilding on a finite budget and phasing in players from the academy.

Agree with Neville who post match said he likes the team now and the way they're trying to play but it's an 18 month to 2 year journey back to the top.

this is all true.

but we still should have won that game. it's disappointing to have dominated so much and not be 3-0 up at half-time.

chelsea probably felt the same last week.

Originally Posted by Buck

Were you this pedantic when most of the forum said "Fellaini's not a footballer"?

Apology accepted.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

I watched De Bruyne from a bird's eye view on Saturday... put him in that United team instead of a waster like Lingard and we'd be a completely different proposition going forward.

His movement, his vision and his first time passing is on a completely different level.

Nothing encapsulates the slide into mediocrity at United more than the continual presence of wasters like Lingard at the club playing key attacking positions.

Amen

Wolves are going to be one of those teams, Like Middlesbrough, that are just a constant pain in our arse.

Hopefully when we've got our act together one of these years we'll pummel them like we did to Middlesbrough in 2008 with Rooney and Tevez.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

didn't spurs stick about 6 past them?

3 /2 i think then wolves went and beat spurs away whilst beating us chelsea arsenal and drawing with city and not losing at home since early january ... and beating liverpool in the cup

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Wolves are going to be one of those teams, Like Middlesbrough, that are just a constant pain in our arse.

Hopefully when we've got our act together one of these years we'll pummel them like we did to Middlesbrough in 2008 with Rooney and Tevez.

Nailed on we will draw them in Europa Cup at some point.

Good first half. Wolves obviously targeted Shaw at the start of the second half and it worked That left side is going to hurt us this season.

Thought James was okay. The tactic to stretch wolves worked for most of game. Rashford and Martial just okay, but hopefully the partnership will get better.

Pogba's penalty miss wasn't great but way more annoying was that free kick from Rashford. Can we get a captain in the team who is prepared to say "walk away Marcus, we got this"?

Lingard shouldn't be anywhere near that team. Mata even more so. Have no idea what either of them do beyond Lingard's running around a lot.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Actually, that will be a good test for them - they can prove they aren't just game raising @#%&!s.

(or not, as the case may be)

Wow.

When we beat you in the league in 2004 we were, undoubtedly, despicable game raising @#%&!s. Bottom of the league, relegated out of sight and we won at home against a far, far superior side to your current one.

But now? We finished one place below you in the league and for the first time since I've been alive on this planet there are a couple of players in the Utd team who genuinely wouldn't get in to ours.

Utd still way ahead of Wolves - as they should be - but if we lose to Burnley (we may well do that) it won't be because we raised our game last night. We were actually pretty lacklustre all things considered.

For the first time since Fergie went though you can see Utd are only a few players short of being back in business. Maguire is very obviously a Utd player, Wan Bisaka is granite and Martial/Rashford are clearly going to rinse a lot of defences - much, much harder to play against that a side with Lukaku as a focal point.

But on penalties, man. Your manager has got to take that one on the chin.

Two weeks ago in Europe, we were 2-0 up against some Armenian outfit. Cutrone made his debut as a sub, came on and won a penalty with all his own work. Got very Italian about it all and pleaded with Neves to let him take it so he could open his account. Neves handed him the ball and Nuno went MENTAL on the touchline and demanded it be given back to Neves.

Rashford takes that penalty, you win the game. Simple as that. We all know it.

Originally Posted by DuanePipe

Wow.

When we beat you in the league in 2004 we were, undoubtedly, despicable game raising @#%&!s. Bottom of the league, relegated out of sight and we won at home against a far, far superior side to your current one.

But now? We finished one place below you in the league and for the first time since I've been alive on this planet there are a couple of players in the Utd team who genuinely wouldn't get in to ours.

Utd still way ahead of Wolves - as they should be - but if we lose to Burnley (we may well do that) it won't be because we raised our game last night. We were actually pretty lacklustre all things considered.

For the first time since Fergie went though you can see Utd are only a few players short of being back in business. Maguire is very obviously a Utd player, Wan Bisaka is granite and Martial/Rashford are clearly going to rinse a lot of defences - much, much harder to play against that a side with Lukaku as a focal point.

But on penalties, man. Your manager has got to take that one on the chin.

Two weeks ago in Europe, we were 2-0 up against some Armenian outfit. Cutrone made his debut as a sub, came on and won a penalty with all his own work. Got very Italian about it all and pleaded with Neves to let him take it so he could open his account. Neves handed him the ball and Nuno went MENTAL on the touchline and demanded it be given back to Neves.

Rashford takes that penalty, you win the game. Simple as that. We all know it.

Post.

Always had a soft spot for Wolves living there for two years. Glad to see them doing well but not at our expense.

Originally Posted by windy waffles

Post.

Always had a soft spot for Wolves living there for two years. Glad to see them doing well but not at our expense.

Get out of his arse ffs.