Manchester United v Fulham - PL 24/02/24 3pm KO - Official Match Thread

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

https://x.com/statmandave/status/176...aSbh7vgQsN2lEQ

That is beyond disgraceful

Originally Posted by croady26

That is beyond disgraceful

It’s a pointless stat. West Ham had 22 shots, no goals. We had 21 shots today, were terrible and got, rightly, gubbed

Originally Posted by Finport Red

It’s a pointless stat. West Ham had 22 shots, no goals. We had 21 shots today, were terrible and got, rightly, gubbed

It's not really, it tells you something about the kind of encouragement we give opposing teams and the areas we allow them into.

It doesn't mean much in isolation but you look at it over a period of games and it becomes more apparent why we concede so many goals.

We don't control games in key moments and we allow teams to saunter up the pitch with the ball without laying a glove on them.

Proper sides don't allow this shit to happen every single game. The fact that only the team who are rock bottom have allowed more shots on their goal this season should be £#%&!ing alarming.

Because rest assured if we rock up to city next weekend and allow them 20 odd shots on our goal they'll be 4-0 up at half time. Again.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

It's not really, it tells you something about the kind of encouragement we give opposing teams and the areas we allow them into.

It doesn't mean much in isolation but you look at it over a period of games and it becomes more apparent why we concede so many goals.

We don't control games in key moments and we allow teams to saunter up the pitch with the ball without laying a glove on them.

Proper sides don't allow this shit to happen every single game. The fact that only the team who are rock bottom have allowed more shots on their goal this season should be £#%&!ing alarming.

Because rest assured if we rock up to city next weekend and allow them 20 odd shots on our goal they'll be 4-0 up at half time. Again.

Yet we were undefeated this year until that last minute today.

I’m not saying we are good, and I’m not saying we won’t get annihilated next week with most of our defence out injured (we will), but it all comes down to the same things as it has all season - injuries, and ‘star’ players not prepared to put a shift in or give the ball away at every opportunity. With our first eleven, we can carry Bruno, but we can’t long term have him and rashford in the same team. Defence starts at the front, and neither of them is up to that job.

Originally Posted by Finport Red

, we can carry Bruno, but we can’t long term have him and rashford in the same team. Defence starts at the front, and neither of them is up to that job.

ether when i said we can just abour afford to have Bruno in our team in July, what was your response?

You mate is saying the same thing!

Originally Posted by marlo

ether when i said we can just abour afford to have Bruno in our team in July, what was your response?

You mate is saying the same thing!

I doubt ethers considers me his mate.

Originally Posted by Finport Red

Yet we were undefeated this year until that last minute today.

I’m not saying we are good, and I’m not saying we won’t get annihilated next week with most of our defence out injured (we will), but it all comes down to the same things as it has all season - injuries, and ‘star’ players not prepared to put a shift in or give the ball away at every opportunity. With our first eleven, we can carry Bruno, but we can’t long term have him and rashford in the same team. Defence starts at the front, and neither of them is up to that job.

We didn't manage to lose in 7 whole games whilst playing the likes of Newport, Wigan Athletic and Luton.

Hardly something to crow about.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

We didn't manage to lose in 7 whole games whilst playing the likes of Newport, Wigan Athletic and Luton.

Hardly something to crow about.

They’re the games in the tweet.

Originally Posted by marlo

but then again most of you have made you bed so you have to lay in it.
ETH talent ID is atrocious.
we are so bad at keeping possession and controlling a game so we go and sign a midfielder that was being benched at Chelsea because he is always losing possession. we can just about afford to have bruno in the side playing the way he has. now we have a btec version as well

IN ETH YOU lot trust.

Originally Posted by Ethers

Yeah, we can just afford to have our best and most productive player in the side

Any chance you could go and book a submarine trip you tedious @#%&!.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

We didn't manage to lose in 7 whole games whilst playing the likes of Newport, Wigan Athletic and Luton.

Hardly something to crow about.

exactly. and the performances hardly suggested we'd turned a corner. we beat teams that don't take their chances.

Originally Posted by jem

exactly. and the performances hardly suggested we'd turned a corner. we beat teams that don't take their chances.

Absolutely spot on,today we finally got what we deserved because have scraped through 2024

Hang on, there’s loads of excessive stats these days that the einsteins and young uns are into but I’m not having shots on target is a meaningless one ffs.

People are calling Ten delusional after this interview:

https://youtu.be/RV5wptALnUU?si=Z9LSdRemz17ow52I

https://youtu.be/XVbrU0Xcljw?si=v8Lhw_7NCiLkLq59

Originally Posted by armchair

People are calling Ten delusional after this interview:

https://youtu.be/T9tYUW-zJ-Y?si=GuS5UzT3aNMStGFT

https://youtu.be/XVbrU0Xcljw?si=v8Lhw_7NCiLkLq59

From the way he talks, you'd think we'd played City or Madrid. It was Fulham at home. They had 1 away win in 12 games before yesterday. "big character to fight back and get the draw?" what the £#%&! is he on about.

His drivel is worse than Moyes. The football is worse than Mourinho's. The results are worse than all of them. I can't wait for us to get rid and start again with a proper structure and a no excuses attitude.

We have rode our luck a lot this season, we could quite easily be 10th or lower given how some of the games have played out in terms of chances etc. We are actually outperforming our expected points tally by 10, which would have us in 11th. Probably gives an indication as to how shit we have actually been.

the team showed big character?

mickey mouse, maybe.

we went 1-0 down and got desperate.

It boils down to the facts we already know. We have spent the player budget horrendously and don’t have a team comfortable in keeping the football. We can do it when Shaw and Martinez are fit but take them away and we have nobody capable of progressing a football up the pitch to our strikers.

Ten Hag is a possession based manager having to work with players like Maguire, Lindelof, Varane, dalot, Bruno, Casemiro, and The Scottish Player.

That’s the reason we looks so disjointed.

We were a functional counter attacking team, we have all the same players and are now a very poor possession based team when missing Shaw and Martinez.

EtH has never had the structure above him to go and find the players he needs, which is why he has tried to shoehorn ones in that he knows. We have to give him the time in the new structure to put a squad together that can play how he wants. Half of the players in the team he’s asked the club to sell but they were incapable

Originally Posted by browser

It boils down to the facts we already know. We have spent the player budget horrendously and don’t have a team comfortable in keeping the football. We can do it when Shaw and Martinez are fit but take them away and we have nobody capable of progressing a football up the pitch to our strikers.

Ten Hag is a possession based manager having to work with players like Maguire, Lindelof, Varane, dalot, Bruno, Casemiro, and The Scottish Player.

That’s the reason we looks so disjointed.

We were a functional counter attacking team, we have all the same players and are now a very poor possession based team when missing Shaw and Martinez.

EtH has never had the structure above him to go and find the players he needs, which is why he has tried to shoehorn ones in that he knows. We have to give him the time in the new structure to put a squad together that can play how he wants. Half of the players in the team he’s asked the club to sell but they were incapable

If we sold those players do you knows here we would be now position wise (maguire and The Scottish Player)

Also he didn’t even playing his own signings btw.

No manager gets the players he want every time but he has spent enough for to be much better that we are .

The teams we are being out played by aren’t better than us on paper.

You’d take our squad over Fulham’s everyday of the week, so why can’t we even match their level of play