Erik Ten Hag - Keep or Sack? APRIL EDITION.

We’re not getting Zidane. Absolute polar opposite of this INEOS model

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

We’re not getting Zidane. Absolute polar opposite of this INEOS model

I only listen if the usual sources speak

If he'd commit to selling Rashford and dropping Bruno when he's playing shit, he's worth another year imo.

Originally Posted by BigRonManager

If he'd commit to selling Rashford and dropping Bruno when he's playing shit, he's worth another year imo.

if he'd done that, maybe people would have voted for him. imagine it he'd abandoned the inverted fullbacks and played a midfield, too.

he be like a completely different manager. which is what we need.

vote or shut up

Originally Posted by larry

vote or shut up

no, larry.

I don’t see the point in replacing him now before the new ownership and dof structure is properly in place.

No manager would flourish with the issues he’s dealt with over the last two years. He’s had to deal with Ronaldo, pogba, Sancho, greenwood and an injury crisis like we’ve never seen before.

Get the ratcliffe structure sorted and then if he still isn’t up to it, spend time sourcing a proper replacement for the next 5-10 years not Southgate ffs.

He may well not be a long term solution but until a solid club structure is in place we can’t know for sure.

To repeat - Southgate may be the alternative.

3 more injuries, or as Romano states it...

"More than 60! It's around 64, 65, so it's an incredible situation for Man Utd. Too many injuries. This is absolutely not normal."

So for me, Ten Hag in/out comes down to who is mostly responsible for the injury crisis, Ten Hag, or the Glazer's running down the club.

I remember a lot of injuries under Van Gaal, but....65 is a lot. (There is evidence pointing to Ten Hag as being culpable in this)

Originally Posted by Surfers do Charlie

I don’t see the point in replacing him now before the new ownership and dof structure is properly in place.

No manager would flourish with the issues he’s dealt with over the last two years. He’s had to deal with Ronaldo, pogba, Sancho, greenwood and an injury crisis like we’ve never seen before.

Get the ratcliffe structure sorted and then if he still isn’t up to it, spend time sourcing a proper replacement for the next 5-10 years not Southgate ffs.

He may well not be a long term solution but until a solid club structure is in place we can’t know for sure.

To repeat - Southgate may be the alternative.

+ Martial and Rashford, virtual absentees, on top of the “injuries”

“What concerns me is that in 18 months I have never had my favourite team on the pitch once, because players were injured – that concerns me. In fact there was only one time, against City at home last season. That is the only time I had a full squad to pick my full team.”

"...And I know that when we’ve had so many injuries in crucial key positions, you can’t deliver the results you want to bring."

Bodes well.

Originally Posted by armchair

“What concerns me is that in 18 months I have never had my favourite team on the pitch once, because players were injured – that concerns me. In fact there was only one time, against City at home last season. That is the only time I had a full squad to pick my full team.”

"...And I know that when we’ve had so many injuries in crucial key positions, you can’t deliver the results you want to bring."

Bodes well.

Struggling to comprehend how many injuries we’ve had. It does smell a little bit of players not wanting to play and expose themselves in a poorly functioning system. Obvs not players like Martinez but some of the others smell like bullshit. Mount and Amrabat injured? How exactly?

Very suss.

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

Struggling to comprehend how many injuries we’ve had. It does smell a little bit of players not wanting to play and expose themselves in a poorly functioning system. Obvs not players like Martinez but some of the others smell like bullshit. Mount and Amrabat injured? How exactly?

Very suss.

So are we blaming the players now then or what?

That's not a snide remark BTW, I just don't know exactly where fault lies. Having watched the shitshow that is United over the last 10 years, I'd err on it being an issue with poor recruitment/players rather than management. The players should do what the manager tells them, if they choose not to it's on them.

I'm currently about 65% in on my ever sliding scale, purely because there's only about 5 players in the first team squad I don't think are @#%&!s

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

Struggling to comprehend how many injuries we’ve had. It does smell a little bit of players not wanting to play and expose themselves in a poorly functioning system. Obvs not players like Martinez but some of the others smell like bullshit. Mount and Amrabat injured? How exactly?

Very suss.

My first thought when I saw these new injuries. In the case of Big Willy, could be him or the management want to avoid him being thrown under the bus so early in his career.

The thing is, if the injuries are all genuine then there needs to be a Spanish Enquiry asap to find out how the £#%&! so many players are falling apart.

Originally Posted by shenwen

My first thought when I saw these new injuries. In the case of Big Willy, could be him or the management want to avoid him being thrown under the bus so early in his career.

The thing is, if the injuries are all genuine then there needs to be a Spanish Enquiry asap to find out how the £#%&! so many players are falling apart.

Nah. Think as Mike suggested, a half of them are being very choosy when they fancy it or not. Apart from perma+sicknote Martial, Verane, Casemiro, Mount, Amrabat etc + Rashford, who might as well be injured. Verane let it be known last season that he wants to prolong his career, $$$$$$$$$$$ hence opting out of internationals and clearly self club games. Pogba did it and it has caught on.

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

So are we blaming the players now then or what?

That's not a snide remark BTW, I just don't know exactly where fault lies. Having watched the shitshow that is United over the last 10 years, I'd err on it being an issue with poor recruitment/players rather than management. The players should do what the manager tells them, if they choose not to it's on them.

I'm currently about 65% in on my ever sliding scale, purely because there's only about 5 players in the first team squad I don't think are @#%&!s

I’m blaming it on the players yes. I blame the manager for serving up such a an incoherent tactically misunderstood shit show but also the players for failing to adapt to it and then shitting out with the slightest excuse. There’s just way too many injuries and like Shenners said, if they are all genuine injuries then the coaching and medical staff want shooting.

That ridiculous and humiliating collapse was down to his (bad) decisions. No coming back from that I fear.

No longer think we should sack him, I'm more amenable to perhaps firing him out of a canon into the Irwell

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

No longer think we should sack him, I'm more amenable to perhaps firing him out of a canon into the Irwell

sackings too good for him

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

No longer think we should sack him, I'm more amenable to perhaps firing him out of a canon into the Irwell

Not sure he'd fit?

https://x.com/mo_utdred/status/1782080919580688798?s=46&t=GmThxTwvA3dB-7-ot5Dfuw