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Unread 29-03-2021, 07:50 AM
Patty_b
 
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He's not wrong on the ownership of the club, but he's picked the wrong way of going about it, it's also almost two decades too late. Oliver Holt having a rant in a daily rag isn't going to scare the hierarchy straight.

His main issue seems to be off the back of a press release from the club announcing a new sponsorship. Of course it's going to be full of utter positive guff ffs. Taking the time to take it apart like Holt has done is demented.

On the enough is enough part, well that's just utter bullshit. But I have a suspicion that it's purposeful shit stirring he added last minute to the end of the article to get a nothing mess of words critiquing a sponsorship press release circulating around social media platforms.
 
Unread 29-03-2021, 09:44 AM
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Wow, we know an issue has hit the mainstream if Holt is commenting on it. The Glazers are rapacious owners? Why has no-one told us this before?
To link this to Ole now, after a bad defeat, when he has dragged us up to second despite glaring squad inadequacies just shows what a pointless £#%&!er Holt is.
 
Unread 29-03-2021, 10:26 AM
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These ownership issues are far from unique. There’s too much money in football for the vultures not to have started circling decades ago; it was inevitable. We could just as easily have someone like Kroenke, or the money launderers, the human rights violators or the Russian mafia. It really is pick your poison time in football these days.

Even more superficially benevolent ownership structures like Barcelona aren’t exactly faring too well these days are they?
 
Unread 29-03-2021, 10:43 AM
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These ownership issues are far from unique. There’s too much money in football for the vultures not to have started circling decades ago; it was inevitable. We could just as easily have someone like Kroenke, or the money launderers, the human rights violators or the Russian mafia. It really is pick your poison time in football these days.

Even more superficially benevolent ownership structures like Barcelona aren’t exactly faring too well these days are they?
Difference is that before the bumper TV deals, we were the only club capable of turning a significant profit, enabling us to keep buying the likes of Rio, Rooney, Veron, Yorke, etc.
 
Unread 01-04-2021, 11:59 AM
Patty_b
 
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Absolute £#%&!ing legend. You've got to love him.
 
Unread 04-04-2021, 09:53 PM
Camel
 
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just for arguments sake, what would you say about a manager who's teams only try with 20 mins left....
 
Unread 04-04-2021, 09:56 PM
ryanMUFC
 
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just for arguments sake, what would you say about a manager who's teams only try with 20 mins left....
Worked out alright in the Nou Camp that time.
 
Unread 04-04-2021, 09:59 PM
Camel
 
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Worked out alright in the Nou Camp that time.
was gonna say winners, myself/ but there's a real problem with this.
 
Unread 04-04-2021, 10:00 PM
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Top 4 surely done and dusted?

First manager post fergie to achieve back to back CL qualification through league positions...

I know it’s not something that deserves wild celebrations but it shows we’re on the right path under him.

Just need the board to back him properly and not like they did last summer

Yeah I know... no chance.
 
Unread 04-04-2021, 10:08 PM
NedKelly
 
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6 points off our total last season with 8 games left to play. Herlig
 
Unread 04-04-2021, 10:12 PM
ryanMUFC
 
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was gonna say winners, myself/ but there's a real problem with this.
Some of the football we’ve played this season has been horrendous. It makes more sense to complain when we don’t win but fair enough.

He wasn’t backed last summer and he’s got us to 2nd doing what he does. It feels like we’re missing players when we have a full strength team out. Hopefully he gets backed in the summer or the board/owners receive an actual backlash of some sort if it doesn’t happen.
 
Unread 04-04-2021, 10:16 PM
NedKelly
 
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He wasn’t backed last summer and he’s got us to 2nd doing what he does. It feels like we’re missing players when we have a full strength team out.
Yes because we are still quite unbalanced overall. Take for example the first half - a decent defensive mid and Pogba staying up in attack stops the first goal from happening and would allow more control in midfield overall. Instead we had Pogba playing like a blind man and Fred being Fred.

Hoping Amad can nail down right wing next season, James as back up. That gives us a better shape in attack.

Ole has got us where we are now despite the unbalanced squad = good management
 
Unread 04-04-2021, 10:22 PM
Camel
 
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Some of the football we’ve played this season has been horrendous. It makes more sense to complain when we don’t win but fair enough.

He wasn’t backed last summer and he’s got us to 2nd doing what he does. It feels like we’re missing players when we have a full strength team out. Hopefully he gets backed in the summer or the board/owners receive an actual backlash of some sort if it doesn’t happen.
i hope you a re right but we both know there's no chance. we are already talking about free's ffs
 
Unread 04-04-2021, 10:33 PM
20LEgend1999
 
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Anybody still looking to compare the job Tuchel has done to what Ole is doing?

Because when Leicester beat Chelsea 2-0 and Chelsea decided they were going to sack Lampard, they were 8 points behind us. Tuchel came in and showed what a difference a new manager can make and now they're 9 points behind us.

 
Unread 04-04-2021, 10:33 PM
ryanMUFC
 
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Yes because we are still quite unbalanced overall. Take for example the first half - a decent defensive mid and Pogba staying up in attack stops the first goal from happening and would allow more control in midfield overall. Instead we had Pogba playing like a blind man and Fred being Fred.

Hoping Amad can nail down right wing next season, James as back up. That gives us a better shape in attack.

Ole has got us where we are now despite the unbalanced squad = good management
Probably a big ask considering he’s not starting games yet.

If it doesn’t work out, we’ve cheaped out big time on that position. We don’t have any real back up for Rashford on the left. It would make sense to get Sancho in the summer if he’s available at a better price and use Amad as the back up.
 
Unread 04-04-2021, 11:12 PM
Vida_15
 
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just for arguments sake, what would you say about a manager who's teams only try with 20 mins left....
second place and in the qtrs of Europa
 
Unread 04-04-2021, 11:14 PM
MUFC One Love
 
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Yes because we are still quite unbalanced overall. Take for example the first half - a decent defensive mid and Pogba staying up in attack stops the first goal from happening and would allow more control in midfield overall. Instead we had Pogba playing like a blind man and Fred being Fred.

Hoping Amad can nail down right wing next season, James as back up. That gives us a better shape in attack.

Ole has got us where we are now despite the unbalanced squad = good management
Amad isn't nailing down that right side mate. Nowt to so with his ability but surely we need to be looking at a proper right sided attacker ffs.
 
Unread 04-04-2021, 11:24 PM
red in cumbria
 
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Anybody still looking to compare the job Tuchel has done to what Ole is doing?

Because when Leicester beat Chelsea 2-0 and Chelsea decided they were going to sack Lampard, they were 8 points behind us. Tuchel came in and showed what a difference a new manager can make and now they're 9 points behind us.

You can prove anything with stats, even that OGS is actually a decent manager
 
Unread 05-04-2021, 09:30 AM
redhegemony
 
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Anybody still looking to compare the job Tuchel has done to what Ole is doing?

Because when Leicester beat Chelsea 2-0 and Chelsea decided they were going to sack Lampard, they were 8 points behind us. Tuchel came in and showed what a difference a new manager can make and now they're 9 points behind us.

Tuchel had an easy run of fixtures to bed in with...they've got a tough run in. West Ham, City, Arsenal, Leicester + City and Porto in the cups.
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