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We've had some very good results against some good sides, inconsistency can be solved. Ole and the coaching staff have work to do on that front. Might need to freshen up the backroom at some point, but that's entirely on Ole. If he's learnt anything from Fergie, it's that there's no room for sentimentality. |
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With regards to why we are in the current mess. 40% woodward 35% players 25% ole. Yet every 3 years we seem to be changing the manager. At worst ole will have gotten rid of the bad players( still about 7 to go). He isnt the best manager. But the players and woodward are more to blame |
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We're not doing as bad as people are making out. We're where we should be and hoping for better. Some think it's a forlorn hope and that he'll never get there. Given that chopping and changing has led us to where we are, we might as well hunker down and see what happens. |
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At this point of the season I find it pretty easy to see things from different perspectives. We are in progress, but Ole has made the right signings. Yeah but we got beat by Watford. Did you not see us beat City and Spurs? What about the total lack of any plan or structure to the team whenever we play sides that sit back and wait? Comes a point where some people just regurgitate their posts over and over (and sometimes they’re really long). I’m ole in, btw, but am taking a more “let’s wait and see” approach now, as I’ve already said what I have to say (thus far). |
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Only difference that will be made is if everyone stops going to the matches. That isn’t happening so in the meantime, if we play badly, people deserve a moan, if we play well, get the champagne out and enjoy it. |
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I still fancy us to end up in the CL places but it’s increasingly feeling like hope over expectation. On Ole, I want him to be a success. I just don’t think he will be. Of course give him time, but what’s the cut off point? Two years without CL? Three years without a trophy? It’s not sustainable unless we see real change in performances (and most likely personnel). |
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Don't discuss the results everyone as Keith finds it all a bit boorish. Perhaps we could have a poetry section where we express our frustrations in the form of prose? Or a league where we evaluate results based on some 'par' system? And then ban people who start slagging off the team or pointing out how shit things are? Then change the name of the forum Red and White Stretford End. |
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Personally, I think he’ll be around next season but if we have a similar start as we did this one, he’ll be out before Christmas. |