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Unread 18-11-2023, 01:15 PM
Fat Al
 
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As I understand it, one possible punishment would be to kick them out of the PL.

If that happens, then they'd have to apply to be let into the Football League. Would they allow them in? And at what level? I suspect every club in the FL would object to them just dropping into their league. So where would they go? Where could they go?

European Super League. Backed by the oil money. That'll be their threat to the PL.
 
Unread 18-11-2023, 05:39 PM
Sapien
 
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As I understand it, one possible punishment would be to kick them out of the PL.

If that happens, then they'd have to apply to be let into the Football League. Would they allow them in? And at what level? I suspect every club in the FL would object to them just dropping into their league. So where would they go? Where could they go?

European Super League. Backed by the oil money. That'll be their threat to the PL.
No other Champions League club would play ball with that plan imo. Maybe Chelsea can join them. Can't have a super League on their own.
 
Unread 18-11-2023, 07:20 PM
Zorg
 
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Strip them of their trophies and demote them to the bottom division like Rangers.
Iím as keen as anyone to see them punished but forcing them to play in Scotland is too far, imo.
 
Unread 18-11-2023, 07:24 PM
magic_cantona
 
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If they're demoted for one season,none of their players or manager will jump ship. But 4 years out of the champions league and Premier League? Like rats out of an aqueduct.

It has to be a severe punishment and I don't see how they keep the titles they've won whilst totally skewing the rules. If the rules had been adhered to, they just wouldn't be anything like they are now. The PL have to get this right.

Everton can (and will) appeal to the PL, but it's only the PL they can appeal to. So the PL should grow some %@#$&!s, no?
 
Unread 18-11-2023, 07:30 PM
92ToBury
 
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Strip them of their trophies and demote them to the bottom division like Rangers.
This. Every trophy won since 2008.

We're owed a few of them.

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If they're demoted for one season,none of their players or manager will jump ship. But 4 years out of the champions league and Premier League? Like rats out of an aqueduct.

It has to be a severe punishment and I don't see how they keep the titles they've won whilst totally skewing the rules. If the rules had been adhered to, they just wouldn't be anything like they are now. The PL have to get this right.

Everton can (and will) appeal to the PL, but it's only the PL they can appeal to. So the PL should grow some %@#$&!s, no?
Correct. Every player over 26 would leave, they're not hanging around for the money in Manchester when they can get even more in Saudi if they're truly a mercenary.
 
Unread 18-11-2023, 07:32 PM
Hyman_Roth
 
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Iím as keen as anyone to see them punished but forcing them to play in Scotland is too far, imo.
Agreed. No club, no matter what the crime, not even Fred West FC should have to suffer Scotland

Didnít Pep say he would leave if they were found to have cheated? - Obvs that all said with that puppy dog eyed earnestness whilst he creams multiple wages as a consultant to other city companies.

Weíll see - take your stone island jumper and your Parkinson diseased inspired adhd team talks and £#%&! off.
 
Unread 18-11-2023, 07:33 PM
Tommy M
 
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If they're demoted for one season,none of their players or manager will jump ship. But 4 years out of the champions league and Premier League? Like rats out of an aqueduct.

It has to be a severe punishment and I don't see how they keep the titles they've won whilst totally skewing the rules. If the rules had been adhered to, they just wouldn't be anything like they are now. The PL have to get this right.

Everton can (and will) appeal to the PL, but it's only the PL they can appeal to. So the PL should grow some %@#$&!s, no?
Apparently FFP rules are stricter in the EFL , so i do not see how they could pay the same wages as present in the championship.
 
Unread 18-11-2023, 07:36 PM
Hyman_Roth
 
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If they're demoted for one season,none of their players or manager will jump ship. But 4 years out of the champions league and Premier League? Like rats out of an aqueduct.

It has to be a severe punishment and I don't see how they keep the titles they've won whilst totally skewing the rules. If the rules had been adhered to, they just wouldn't be anything like they are now. The PL have to get this right.

Everton can (and will) appeal to the PL, but it's only the PL they can appeal to. So the PL should grow some %@#$&!s, no?
Itís about the future of the competition - Iím amazed that they can actually see it. (Iím still not convinced they will)

And Iím a bit surprised you can also given that the ME MO is to financially cheat their way to successÖ
 
Unread 18-11-2023, 07:58 PM
magic_cantona
 
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Itís about the future of the competition - Iím amazed that they can actually see it. (Iím still not convinced they will)

And Iím a bit surprised you can also given that the ME MO is to financially cheat their way to successÖ
Don't be racist and tar everyone with the same brush.

Reported.
 
Unread 18-11-2023, 08:01 PM
Hyman_Roth
 
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Don't be racist and tar everyone with the same brush.

Reported.
Provide an example where they havenítÖÖ



BTW. Is the ME a race?
 
Unread 18-11-2023, 08:08 PM
magic_cantona
 
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Provide an example where they havenítÖÖ



BTW. Is the ME a race?
Sheikh Jassim.
 
Unread 18-11-2023, 08:19 PM
Chris Quayd
 
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Sheikh Jassim.
Was on the board at UBS during the 1MDB scandal
 
Unread 18-11-2023, 08:21 PM
Zorg
 
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If they're demoted for one season,none of their players or manager will jump ship. But 4 years out of the champions league and Premier League? Like rats out of an aqueduct.

It has to be a severe punishment and I don't see how they keep the titles they've won whilst totally skewing the rules. If the rules had been adhered to, they just wouldn't be anything like they are now. The PL have to get this right.

Everton can (and will) appeal to the PL, but it's only the PL they can appeal to. So the PL should grow some %@#$&!s, no?
They should have everything stripped off them post 2008. All of it. And be relegated to the Conference, and forced to select their squad from 15 years ago and replay every match.
 
Unread 18-11-2023, 08:33 PM
magic_cantona
 
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They should have everything stripped off them post 2008. All of it. And be relegated to the Conference, and forced to select their squad from 15 years ago and replay every match.
Seems fair enough.
 
Unread 19-11-2023, 12:34 AM
Stickman
 
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Iíd accept an asterisk against everything won the last 12 years and a transfer ban until Guardiola walks out onto the Old Trafford centre circle, bends over and kisses his own arse before apologising for 7 years of deceit.
 
Unread 19-11-2023, 05:31 AM
croady26
 
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So it looks like a shit load of slap on the wrist charges and a few serious ones according to Ornstein.
Yeah he didn't give much cause for optimism of City being made an example of unfortunately
 
Unread 19-11-2023, 08:54 AM
VanHaaksbergen
 
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Oleís going to win a championship
 
Unread 19-11-2023, 09:06 AM
silv
 
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they wonít even get a fine
 
Unread 19-11-2023, 09:07 AM
andyroo
 
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Iíd accept an asterisk against everything won the last 12 years and a transfer ban until Guardiola walks out onto the Old Trafford centre circle, bends over and kisses his own arse before apologising for 7 years of deceit.
Hard to do from the inside
 
Unread 19-11-2023, 09:38 AM
armchair
 
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What about city owning Girona too? They are top of La liga atm. How dodgy is this:

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Girona Futbol Club, S.A.D. is a Spanish professional football club based in Girona, Catalonia, Spain. Founded on 23 July 1930, the team plays in La Liga, to which they gained promotion in the 2022 Segunda Divisiůn play-offs.
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On 23 August 2017, it was announced City Football Group (CFG), a subsidiary of Abu Dhabi United Group, had purchased 44.3% ownership in Girona. Another 44.3% was held by Girona Football Group, led by Pere Guardiola, the brother of CFG-owned Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola.[14] On 29 October 2017, Girona recorded a memorable victory, defeating reigning European Cup winners Real Madrid 2Ė1.[15][16]
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