United's best 11 and Formation - what is it?

Nail your colours to the mast - choose your 1-11 of the players we have, injured or not, that make up our best, most efficient, most cognitive team. Let's see where Olé is going wrong and how your team is the team that wins us a title or cup. Don't shoehorn someone in just because you think he has to play.

I'm going.

4-3-3

Dave

AWB
Varane
Maguire
Shaw

The Scottish Player
Bruno
Pogba

Greenwood (right)
Ronaldo
Rashford (left)

Being totally honest, if Greenwood was used like he was at the weekend, I'd rather Sancho take his spot. We're desperate to play with 2 actual wingers that can beat defenders and put the ball into dangerous areas, as opposed to (like Saturday) our 'winger/wingers' being forced through a bottle neck through the middle.

2 wingers, played as wingers, are essential imo. As is NOT playing 2 holding midfielders.

Pogba is the bastard here. Given he is the only central midfielder who can do things for the team. However he goes missing and is a defensible liability. I think you’ve got it spot on however.

You either stick pogba I’m hoping he has a good game or stick vdb/Fred in and know they will have an average/shit game but provide more assurance at the back.

Think 4-3-3 works, don’t think Bruno has to play number ten, the two players Infront if the defensive mid have freedom to go forward. Il be surprised if he changes it now, he went to diamond last season then the second game it didn’t work and he switched and then the whole world was on his back for not having a settled team.

He probably needs to change it to 4-3-3 and stick with it. Think he would only change if we lose on wed . On paper he is still in a good position, one point off top, still in the champions league .

Originally Posted by Dasilvatwins

Wasn’t just one summer. It’s the sum of about 4 windows . We got our CB (maguire) a year late and our winger (Sancho) a year late. We only have ourselves(glazer and Woodward ) to blame

Yup.

What's that now, nearly a decade of absolute holocaust transfer windows?

I dread to think of the money spent. Whilst also ironically dreading the money not spent.


MUFC: Incompetent from top to bottom.

Ronaldo was such a clever - albeit obvious - signing. Keeps the fans onside for probably what amounts to peanuts in the grand scheme. Look at the situation right now: everyone, rightly or wrongly, wants to blame ole for the situation. Fair enough, but all it means is no fingers being pointed at the owners again.


Can't wait for another glazer out campaign in a couple of years which will achieve £#%&! all

The problem with not playing two holding midfielders is that we are stunningly easy to play against. We think it’s attacking, but it isn’t. We can’t attack if we can’t control a game and teams just run through us.

Pogba is a nightmare there and you lose his best qualities. As ever, trying to shoehorn him in is a nightmare. The Scottish Player is probably the best of a bad midfield bunch, but he isn’t especially defensive. Fred is awful and playing awfully and needs dropping. He’s better than what we’re currently seeing, but he’s killing us right now. Matic is the best on the ball and the most composed, but he must have someone next to him with legs. If you play Matic, you have to play Fred or The Scottish Player. Or even Donny.

Sancho hasn’t done enough yet to be best 11 pick, but he isn’t going to get any better sat on the bench. It’s a slow start, but it’ll be slower if we keep dropping him.

Back five picks itself. Ronnie, Bruno are automatic picks.

With that in mind, as it stands:

DDG

Awb
Varane
Maguire
Shaw

Matic
The Scottish Player
Bruno

Pogba
Greenwood
Ronaldo

£#%&! knows what happens once Rashford is back. More tombola ‘throw enough shit, some sticks’ amateur stuff.

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

Yup.

What's that now, nearly a decade of absolute holocaust transfer windows?

I dread to think of the money spent. Whilst also ironically dreading the money not spent.


MUFC: Incompetent from top to bottom.

Ronaldo was such a clever - albeit obvious - signing. Keeps the fans onside for probably what amounts to peanuts in the grand scheme. Look at the situation right now: everyone, rightly or wrongly, wants to blame ole for the situation. Fair enough, but all it means is no fingers being pointed at the owners again.


Can't wait for another glazer out campaign in a couple of years which will achieve f*** all

Love how they have have “emergency” Ronaldo money but didn’t decide we were a CM short . Not saying we shouldn’t have signed Ronaldo, just the budget was balls and it’s literally only stopping us because our owners are tight-£#%&!.

What’s incredible is that if we have a well run team with good signings, we wouldn’t need to spend 80/90 million a year. If they just get their shit together and we build a squad investing in scouts etc they wouldn’t have to spend 100 mill every two summers. It’s a false economy. Finish outside top 4 spend 100 mill, finish in top 4 spend minimum. And repeat.

It’s worth noting out all these deals are done in instalments so in reality we are spending probably 40-50 million a window.

Originally Posted by Dasilvatwins

Love how they have have “emergency” Ronaldo money but didn’t decide we were a CM short . Not saying we shouldn’t have signed Ronaldo, just the budget was balls and it’s literally only stopping us because our owners are tight-£#%&!.

What’s incredible is that if we have a well run team with good signings, we wouldn’t need to spend 80/90 million a year. If they just get their shit together and we build a squad investing in scouts etc they wouldn’t have to spend 100 mill every two summers. It’s a false economy. Finish outside top 4 spend 100 mill, finish in top 4 spend minimum. And repeat.

It’s worth noting out all these deals are done in instalments so in reality we are spending probably 40-50 million a window.

The Ronaldo deal showed they’ll pay up if they can an instant return. Ronaldo pays for himself. Funny how they found the cash for the most marketable player on the planet

DdG
AWB
Shaw
Maguire
Varane
The Scottish Player
Fred
Beeky
Bruno
Ronaldo
*pick 1 from Greenwood, Rashford, Sancho, Pogba.

We desperately, desperately need better midfielders.

Originally Posted by Dasilvatwins

Love how they have have “emergency” Ronaldo money but didn’t decide we were a CM short . Not saying we shouldn’t have signed Ronaldo, just the budget was balls and it’s literally only stopping us because our owners are tight-£#%&!.

What’s incredible is that if we have a well run team with good signings, we wouldn’t need to spend 80/90 million a year. If they just get their shit together and we build a squad investing in scouts etc they wouldn’t have to spend 100 mill every two summers. It’s a false economy. Finish outside top 4 spend 100 mill, finish in top 4 spend minimum. And repeat.

It’s worth noting out all these deals are done in instalments so in reality we are spending probably 40-50 million a window.

That would involve some level of foresight and competency at board level.

The glazers probably thought Ronnie would automatically do what Brady has done for the Bucs.


If ole doesn't win a pot this season and he does indeed get the boot, that will be 4 managers of various standing and style we'll have been through since Fergie without any sign of getting, really, anywhere. The squad is generally in much better shape now than it was say, at the end of LVG's tenure. But it's still unbalanced. That points to nothing other than a complete lack of direction from board level down.

We wanted a midfielder, but are operating on a not buyimg for the sake of it policy, Ole wanted Rice or Camavinga, we couldn’t get either so opted not to bring anyone in.

Neves couldn’t get in the Wolves side yesterday. Saul was making demands on playing time and role, Tchouameni, Bissouma we’re considered a gamble at this point it would seem.

We need better scouts if they are the only midfielders in Europe that we deem worth looking at though.

De Gea

Dalot Varane Maguire Shaw

De Beek Matic Bruno

Greenwood Ronaldo Sancho

apparently, ole wants to play 4-3-3. you would never guess from our transfer policy, though.

Originally Posted by jem

apparently, ole wants to play 4-3-3. you would never guess from our transfer policy, though.

We were going to play it when we signed Varane according to Ole. Would give us tactical flexibility.

Result: same shit as last season.

Hasn't got a scooby what he's doing. Seems like the coaching in the PL is a bit better than it is in Norway.

Bruno isn’t a midfielder and we need to stop picking him as one of the ‘midfield 3’ tbh.

Originally Posted by dunk

Bruno isn’t a midfielder and we need to stop picking him as one of the ‘midfield 3’ tbh.

Agree

I am happy with any formation that doesn't have two sitting midfielders. Especially if their names are Fred and The Scottish Player.

I would like to see something more like this. Still a big problem for midfield but £#%&! it.

Goalie
Back four
Sancho Matic (McT) Beek
Bruno Ronaldo Cavani (Greenwood)

It's where you fit them all in. There's no way he won't be squeezing Rashford in when he's back.

Just hope Ole doesn't ruin Sancho's career the way he has Beeky's.

Dave

Wan
Varane
Maguire
Shaw

Matic
The Scottish Player
Bruno

Greenwood
Ronaldo
Sancho

I don’t think the formation is going to make much of a difference. We flat out need more midfielders.

De Gea

AWB
Maguire
Varane
Shaw

Matic
VdB
Who cares - we literally don’t have another midfielder worth fielding

Fernandes
Greenwood
Ronaldo

What’s the point? Matic is only good for a couple of games at a time too. Any team with a solid and well drilled midfield will have spells where they’ll look like world beaters against us this season, guaranteed.

De gea

Shaw
Maguire
Varane
Awb

McTom

Pogba
Fernandes

Greenwood
Ronaldo
Sancho

Play wider upfront and not rely on the wing backs overlapping and having to supplement the attack.

Originally Posted by Sloppy

Mourinho would be salivating at the prospect of Rashford and Greenwood playing as wingbacks.