Eric Dier

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

very good player, as is matic.

we needs water carrier. both these players fit the bill.

show me a team that doesn't use one and I'll show you a team that doesn't win big.

Manchester United throughout Fergie's time? Or are you calling Carrick/Keane water carriers?

dier is nearer carrick than he is near jones or jones is near a midfielder. like, drinkwater, he is underrated on here. we've had better midfielders come in and look out of their depth. and we've had fellaini. I wouldn't be too fussy.

tfm needs to play more, though.

I'm guessing he's letter D on JM's shopping list for that position.

If we can't get A to C then i'd take him if he's going to improve us on last year.

I can't say i'd be enthused though.

Originally Posted by tatty

I'm guessing he's letter D on JM's shopping list for that position.

If we can't get A to C then i'd take him if he's going to improve us on last year.

I can't say i'd be enthused though.

For £50 £#%&!ing million? How much are A to C ffs

For 50 or 60 million, I'd want Wanyama.

Originally Posted by goldfinger II

For 50 or 60 million, I'd want Wanyama.

Still nowhere near good enough in my mind.

Veratti, Kroos or realistically, the lad from Napoli - Jorginho - who is like a £#%&!ing metronome in the middle of the park is what we should be going for.

A brain back there rather than purely brawn, or primarily....

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

very good player, as is matic.

we needs water carrier. both these players fit the bill.

show me a team that doesn't use one and I'll show you a team that doesn't win big.

Barcelona over the last 8 years. They won a couple of things IIRC.

Unless you're claiming Busquets is a 'water carrier', you absolute flid.

Don't think we should be signing English players for the moment. They're generally gash and utter #@&%!s

Originally Posted by dunk

For £50 £#%&!ing million? How much are A to C ffs

How much was Fellaini?

Originally Posted by Neo

Barcelona over the last 8 years. They won a couple of things IIRC.

Unless you're claiming Busquets is a 'water carrier', you absolute flid.

ffs. So good to have the big man back in town.

Originally Posted by Part 36 Offer

ffs. So good to have the big man back in town.

is that pointless little pin dick still replying to my posts after all this time

Originally Posted by dunk

Manchester United throughout Fergie's time? Or are you calling Carrick/Keane water carriers?

Fletcher- Ince -Fortune- Djemba -Phelan - Butt -Park - Gibson et al

Butt stands out as the best 300+ appearances.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

is that pointless little pin dick still replying to my posts after all this time

It was actually quite funny tbf mate

Originally Posted by dunk

Manchester United throughout Fergie's time? Or are you calling Carrick/Keane water carriers?

yes i am, especially carrick of recent seasons.

keane's from a different era - that side used nicky butt as well. in fact butt made 50 appearances in the treble season.

every top class team needs a continuity player in the midfield. people get hung up on the term water-carrier as a pejorative. truth is that pogba needs the security of a holder. arguably herrera is our water carrier but he has potential do do more and the more options we have the better.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

yes i am, especially carrick of recent seasons.

keane's from a different era - that side used nicky butt as well. in fact butt made 50 appearances in the treble season.

every top class team needs a continuity player in the midfield. people get hung up on the term water-carrier as a pejorative. truth is that pogba needs the security of a holder. arguably herrera is our water carrier but he has potential do do more and the more options we have the better.

Because of Eric

"Deschamps gets by because he always gives 100 per cent, but he will never be anything more than a water carrier."

Don't care.


If signing him means playing Pogba further forward, do it

What does "water carrier" even mean?

Originally Posted by redhegemony

Because of Eric

"Deschamps gets by because he always gives 100 per cent, but he will never be anything more than a water carrier."

exactly,

he later expanded that to praise deschamps and say that every top side needs a water carrier - and that top class water carriers were important etc ...

i'm glad that at least one person on here gets what i was on about and knows a bit about united's history

Originally Posted by 20 times

What does "water carrier" even mean?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...ater%20carrier


Welcome

Originally Posted by 20 times

What does "water carrier" even mean?

It comes from professional cycling the riders who do the chasing down and ferrying water 'Domestique' eg the non glamorous stuff

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

exactly,

he later expanded that to praise deschamps and say that every top side needs a water carrier - and that top class water carriers were important etc ...

i'm glad that at least one person on here gets what i was on about and knows a bit about united's history

Probably the most infamous is