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Unread 07-06-2010, 04:48 AM
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Default the glazers' other businesses - article this morning from the grauniad

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[SIZE="5"]Revealed: truth about Glazers business empire beyond Manchester United
• US shopping centres are mortgaged to £392m
• Other interests unlikely to pay off United's debt

David Conn, Monday 7 June 2010


The Glazer family's non-sporting business has been severely affected by the recession. Photograph: Dave Thompson/PA
The only significant business owned by the Glazer family besides Manchester United and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers has been severely hit by the recession and is carrying over half a billion dollars in debt.

An investigation carried out by the investment analyst Andy Green in conjunction with the Guardian and the BBC's Panorama programme reveals for the first time the financial health of the family's business interests in the US.

It centres on First Allied Corporation, the Glazer company which owns and rents out shopping malls across the US. First Allied is registered in New York and Delaware, where private companies do not have to make their accounts public, but Green found publicly traded mortgages on 63 of the 64 shopping centres First Allied lists on its website.

The insight those mortgages provide into First Allied's difficult financial position makes it clear that the Bucs and United – which is £717m in debt as a result of the Glazers' takeover – represent the family's principal businesses and sources of cash, now and in the future. It makes clear that there is very little chance the family's other businesses will contribute to clearing United's debt, and raises the possibility that family members will need to continue drawing loans and consultancy fees from the club – they have done so to the tune of £22.9m so far – to finance their lifestyles.

Analysis of mortgage documentation has revealed that four First Allied shopping centres have recently fallen insolvent due to low occupancy. Receivers have been appointed to sell those malls in Columbus, Ohio; Denton County, Texas; Roswell, Georgia and Cobb County, Georgia. One further centre, Lakeview Crossing in Dallas, Texas, fell behind with its mortgage last month.

The mortgages were almost all for loans taken out against the shopping centres with Lehman Brothers, the US investment bank which collapsed in 2008. Twenty-five were remortgages taken out in 2004, the year before the Glazers bought United. Those deals released $83m in equity, with a further $29m equity freed from remortgages in 2006 and 2007. A Glazer family spokesman declined to comment about whether this was how the family raised part of the £272m cash paid to buy United. The Glazers borrowed the other £559m to buy the club, £275m of it in high-interest "payments in kind" from hedge funds, and have made the club responsible for paying it all off.

The public trading of the mortgages means detailed financial information about the shopping centres is disclosed monthly by the trustees of the mortgage packages, Bank of America Merrill Lynch and Wells Fargo. The latest figures, to the end of last month, show that besides the four shopping malls which have gone into receivership and Lakeview Crossing now shown to be in default, 28 – 44% of the remaining centres – are on a "watchlist", meaning the banks are concerned about whether the rental income will be enough to service the mortgages. Seventeen centres receive rent insufficient to cover the required mortgage repayments. The First Allied portfolio is heading for a major further challenge because the mortgages on 30 of the 63 centres are on interest only periods which end this year.

Centres elsewhere are enjoying full or almost-full occupancy and making a profit above their mortgage repayments. The analysis shows overall that the Glazers have $567m (£392m) outstanding in mortgages, and the total rent First Allied received from its tenants meant the company cleared $9.7m before tax last year. First Allied is still above water, therefore, but that total for earnings is nothing like the income required if the Glazers' £202m, 14.25% interest, "payment in kind" loans at United were to be repaid from this outside business.

"The picture of First Allied revealed by the mortgages shows that although we have always been told the Glazers are very successful business people, they do not have a business besides the Bucs and United – which they bought with debt – generating much money at all," concludes Green, who is also a United fan severely critical of the Glazers' debt-laden takeover.

The Glazers are understood to accept their property business has been badly affected by the economic downturn, although they point out that $9.7m does at least represent a profit in a sector which has seen spectacular collapses, in the US and here.

In the prospectus launched by the family in January to borrow £500m in bonds for United, First Allied Corporation was the only "principal outside business interest," besides United and the Bucs, listed by any of Malcolm Glazer's six children, all United directors.

Edward and Kevin Glazer said they were officers of First Allied; Avram, Joel and Bryan Glazer listed only United and the Bucs, while Darcie Glazer-Kassewitz, Malcolm's daughter, said she was co-president of the Glazer family's charitable foundation, which is associated with the Bucs.

The absence of other businesses may explain why the Glazers remain so determined to hold on to United – they believe the club's commercial income will continue to boom – despite the family's deep unpopularity with supporters due to the debts their takeover has loaded on to the club to pay.

The Glazer camp, supported by United's manager Sir Alex Ferguson and chief executive David Gill, have stressed in recent months that United is financially secure despite interest payable last year of £69m, and the total in interest, fees and charges since the takeover, of £460m.

The spokesman for the family pointed to United's increased earnings – up to £278m last year – and significantly improved sponsorship deals, stressing that the club has generated substantial cash and its priority is to provide Ferguson with money to strengthen the squad.

The Manchester United Supporters Trust has called on its members to delay renewing their season tickets until the Glazers sell up, and these revelations of First Allied's position highlight how much the family needs United fans to keep paying their money over. Only by United remaining commercially successful can the family pay their debts, and earn a return from what was the world's richest, debt-free club.
credit to david conn, appears to be the only journalist actually doing his job on this one.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...-fortunes-wane
 
Unread 07-06-2010, 05:25 AM
rafabio
 
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I don't see too much relevance on how much debt they personally are tbh. It is of for more relevance how much united is in.

Although it does make you think, if they get a big enough offer they might pack it in.
 
Unread 07-06-2010, 06:19 AM
Mr Kaboom
 
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It matters because the bond gave them the right to take money out of the club to pay other corporate debts . Ronaldo money siphoned out to pay down Shopping Mall debt. Meanwhile the PIK debt grows at 16.25% The bottom line might be that their overall debts are worth more than their overall assets and will be using every penny they can from United to keep the whole Glazer boat afloat (think Captain Bob and the Mirror pension fund)
 
Unread 07-06-2010, 06:25 AM
wee man
 
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Panorama programme Tuesday night.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10237268.stm
 
Unread 07-06-2010, 06:54 AM
redwhiteandblack
 
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Andy Green goes into more detail here.

http://andersred.blogspot.com/2010/0...st-allied.html
 
Unread 07-12-2010, 04:46 AM
Mak_Bruigh
 
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You got it Don

Now as for you,Mirror.........anarchists.......really,dont tell me you truly believe that. Democracy=far from perfect.Monarchy=far from perfect. BUT ANARCHY...........seriously?
 
Unread 11-12-2010, 10:38 PM
TravellingRed
 
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Originally Posted by Mak_Bruigh
You got it Don

Now as for you,Mirror.........anarchists.......really,dont tell me you truly believe that. Democracy=far from perfect.Monarchy=far from perfect. BUT ANARCHY...........seriously?
eh?
 
Unread 26-12-2010, 02:59 PM
mannita
 
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Seeing the Glazers can only take out so much money from United, they'd have to find other ways of paying off whatever debt they have.
 
Unread 28-12-2010, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mannita
Seeing the Glazers can only take out so much money from United, they'd have to find other ways of paying off whatever debt they have.
well said
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