allegri targetting united job

Originally Posted by Hector

(i) Taylor report - United were among the first to use the forced redevelopment to increase the stadium to increase revenue (via the PLC)
(ii) Better marketing: Sponsorship and merchandising increased revenue beyond other clubs, creating a buzz which helped attract players
(iii) Decline of the biggest rival in Liverpool: who after decades of stability through a consistent slow churn of managers stagnated then imploded: after a philosophy of bringing through 1-2 youth/reserves and buying 1-2 top players each year, managers in quick succession came and went, each took a scatter-gun policy to recruitment (see any similarities here?)

Impacting later, European football's "home-grown" rule led to the introduction of the class of 92 into the first team - half the squad cost nothing, more could be spent buying players for other areas.

Now the £100M a year every PL club gets from TV means every club has good players and it is harder to get the very best, even the dross costs far more.

United aren't competing against only one other club who have a big investment and challenge for a couple of years as it was in the 90s-00s (Blackburn, Newcastle, Arsenal, Leeds, Chelsea, Man City), there's genuine competition from 10 clubs in England, and as many again in Europe.

Jammy bastard

Originally Posted by Hector

(i) Taylor report - United were among the first to use the forced redevelopment to increase the stadium to increase revenue (via the PLC)
(ii) Better marketing: Sponsorship and merchandising increased revenue beyond other clubs, creating a buzz which helped attract players
(iii) Decline of the biggest rival in Liverpool: who after decades of stability through a consistent slow churn of managers stagnated then imploded: after a philosophy of bringing through 1-2 youth/reserves and buying 1-2 top players each year, managers in quick succession came and went, each took a scatter-gun policy to recruitment (see any similarities here?)

Impacting later, European football's "home-grown" rule led to the introduction of the class of 92 into the first team - half the squad cost nothing, more could be spent buying players for other areas.

Now the £100M a year every PL club gets from TV means every club has good players and it is harder to get the very best, even the dross costs far more.

United aren't competing against only one other club who have a big investment and challenge for a couple of years as it was in the 90s-00s (Blackburn, Newcastle, Arsenal, Leeds, Chelsea, Man City), there's genuine competition from 10 clubs in England, and as many again in Europe.

Whatever's wrong with you is no small thing.

Originally Posted by lztom

Whatever's wrong with you is no small thing.

Is this really your yearly post?

When did this beef between hector and iztom get started?

Originally Posted by believe

When did this beef between hector and iztom get started?

Not sure but the Fred Collar Boxing card is getting better by the hour.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

It was the ‘80s mate. Nobody knew how to coach.

I always loved the ABU's who basically seemed to believe Fergie achieved what he did by bribing officials and shouting at people

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

It was the ‘80s mate. Nobody knew how to coach.

Yeah, coaching is a modern invention

Originally Posted by utd99

He had a board that was more patient than most would have been, even back then. I’m not sure a board like that exists anywhere among the biggest clubs in Europe any longer. Our fortunes took an upturn just in the nick of time.

It didn’t exist then, either.

Originally Posted by Hector

(i) Taylor report - United were among the first to use the forced redevelopment to increase the stadium to increase revenue (via the PLC)
(ii) Better marketing: Sponsorship and merchandising increased revenue beyond other clubs, creating a buzz which helped attract players

Impacting later, European football's "home-grown" rule led to the introduction of the class of 92 into the first team - half the squad cost nothing, more could be spent buying players for other areas.

Now the £100M a year every PL club gets from TV means every club has good players and it is harder to get the very best, even the dross costs far more.

All of the above happened after fergie won the title, so not sure how it helped him get lucky. And united didn’t really have a financial advantage over others when he was building a team 86-93.

United had a 58k capacity when he took over in 86, which was gradually reduced due to hillsborough. Then the redevelopment into all seater after the Taylor report took it to 44k and then 55k around 1996.

To suggest Fergie was lucky due to the foreigner rule is a little weird, considering it stopped him playing his best team until the rule was abolished. How lucky he was to have to drop players like schmeichel against Barcelona.

there's genuine competition from 10 clubs in England, and as many again in Europe.

Someone should tell city and Liverpool.

The quality of european teams was far higher in the 90s than it is now, and the league was stronger ten years ago compared to now. Everyone outside city and liverpool aren’t that great, in England and Europe.

https://twitter.com/Sport_Witness/status/1181519455626629126?s=20

Originally Posted by ScarFace

https://twitter.com/Sport_Witness/st...626629126?s=20

Aye, nothing to do with the easy money and big pay off for a few seasons. Loves English football, knows united’s culture very well, and would be building for the long term

Winner of a one team league with the best team and can barely speak English. Would be a typical woodward f*** up. An absolute chancer trying his luck.

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Winner of a one team league with the best team and can barely speak English. Would be a typical woodward £#%&! up.An absolute chancer trying his luck.

He got to 2 Champions league finals in 3 years you oddball. Not saying we should go for him but if he's a chancer, what's Ole?

Originally Posted by browser

He got to 2 Champions league finals in 3 years you oddball. Not saying we should go for him but if he's a chancer, what's Ole?

United legend ?

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Aye, nothing to do with the easy money and big pay off for a few seasons. Loves English football, knows united’s culture very well, and would be building for the long term

Winner of a one team league with the best team and can barely speak English. Would be a typical woodward £#%&! up. An absolute chancer trying his luck.

Didn't do badly winning the title with Milan considering it's a one team league tbf.

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Aye, nothing to do with the easy money and big pay off for a few seasons. Loves English football, knows united’s culture very well, and would be building for the long term

Winner of a one team league with the best team and can barely speak English. Would be a typical woodward f*** up. An absolute chancer trying his luck.

Won Serie A with Milan and Juve. Took Juve to 2 champions league finals.

Originally Posted by browser

He got to 2 Champions league finals in 3 years you oddball. Not saying we should go for him but if he's a chancer, what's Ole?

What part did he play in building that team? It’s a completely different proposition at united, with a club structured very differently in a country, language, culture and style of football that’s foreign to him. You’re just demonstrating the kind of thinking that’s got us into this mess. Regardless of what you think of Ole, he’s a much better fit for our situation.

Originally Posted by d_knight

Woodward says challenge accepted and signs a lifetime contract

fine.

gone by christmas.

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

Didn't do badly winning the title with Milan considering it's a one team league tbf.

Aye, juve winning the last 8 championships makes it a competitive league. Allegri took over the Italian champions. I can see why that would make him a better bet than ole to rebuild the kind of mess we’ve been in for half a decade at united. It would be typical short term disjointed thinking by united if they hired him.

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Aye, juve winning the last 8 championships makes it a competitive league. Allegri took over the Italian champions. I can see why that would make him a better bet than ole to rebuild the kind of mess we’ve been in for half a decade at united. It would be typical short term disjointed thinking by united if they hired him.

He won the league with Milan

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

He won the league with Milan

Well, that changes everything

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Well, that changes everything

It does a bit.

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Aye, juve winning the last 8 championships makes it a competitive league. Allegri took over the Italian champions. I can see why that would make him a better bet than ole to rebuild the kind of mess we’ve been in for half a decade at united. It would be typical short term disjointed thinking by united if they hired him.

But isn't there a chance that Ole's simply not a very good manager? That's one thing you couldn't level at Allegri. I personally feel that we should stick with Ole but unfortunately his lack of pedigree is hardly re-assuring regarding a long term rebuild.