allegri targetting united job

learning english = prepping for the united job, according to the graun

lesson 1
'put the phone down.'
'less dancing, more running'
'mr shorts, here is p45'
'young, ffs'

https://www.theguardian.com/football...ter-united-job

Now yesterday’s Honda thread makes more sense.

Originally Posted by Sapien

Now yesterday’s Honda thread makes more sense.

Is that still zooming along?
Sorry wrong brand

We could sign a peak fergie via time machine and he'd fail with this background set up.

i'd take ole doing 2-3 years as manager then moving upstair to football director.

the stuff he's done as manager (bring in youngish uk players, get rid of deadwood) has been football director-like.

Originally Posted by armchair

i'd take ole doing 2-3 years as manager then moving upstair to football director.

the stuff he's done as manager (bring in youngish uk players, get rid of deadwood) has been football director-like.

It's true tbf. Feels like he's laid out a vision, made some good calls on squad changes and has the patience to see it through.

Just doesn't really know how to coach or motivate players maybe

Spurs by Friday

Originally Posted by armchair

i'd take ole doing 2-3 years as manager then moving upstair to football director.

the stuff he's done as manager (bring in youngish uk players, get rid of deadwood) has been football director-like.

As long as it doesn’t end too badly for him here I’d definitely be up for that.

SAF was basically the DoF/sporting director and it’s something we haven’t looked to replace since he retired. I could easily see Ole being the type of person that would do well in that type of role.

Maybe if we’d have kept Rene and Shorts on as coaches and just hired a hands on DoF in 2013 we wouldn’t be in the mess we find ourselves...

Or it could have gone much worse tbf

Originally Posted by AK14

As long as it doesn’t end too badly for him here I’d definitely be up for that.

SAF was basically the DoF/sporting director and it’s something we haven’t looked to replace since he retired. I could easily see Ole being the type of person that would do well in that type of role.

Maybe if we’d have kept Rene and Shorts on as coaches and just hired a hands on DoF in 2013 we wouldn’t be in the mess we find ourselves...

Or it could have gone much worse tbf

Hard to see how it could have been *much* worse, really........

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Hard to see how it could have been *much* worse, really........

Woodward says challenge accepted and signs a lifetime contract

Originally Posted by armchair

the stuff he's done as manager (bring in youngish uk players, get rid of deadwood) has been football director-like.

Or even manager-like.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

It's true tbf. Feels like he's laid out a vision, made some good calls on squad changes and has the patience to see it through.

Just doesn't really know how to coach or motivate players maybe

Did fergie not know how to coach or motivate players 86-91?

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Did fergie not know how to coach or motivate players 86-91?

Fergie got lucky. I don’t think that type of luck exists in football any more.

Originally Posted by utd99

Fergie got lucky. I don’t think that type of luck exists in football any more.

Agreed. Can’t remember the last time a team won the PL against all odds. Literally never happens.

Originally Posted by NedKelly

Agreed. Can’t remember the last time a team won the PL against all odds. Literally never happens.

Leicester?

They were great that year but the other club were also piss poor. Freak of nature.

Originally Posted by windy waffles

Leicester?

They were great that year but the other club were also piss poor. Freak of nature.

Nice one pal. Think he was struggling there.

Originally Posted by utd99

Fergie got lucky. I don’t think that type of luck exists in football any more.

How?

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Or even manager-like.



Did fergie not know how to coach or motivate players 86-91?

It was the ‘80s mate. Nobody knew how to coach.

Originally Posted by believe

How?

(i) Taylor report - United were among the first to use the forced redevelopment to increase the stadium to increase revenue (via the PLC)
(ii) Better marketing: Sponsorship and merchandising increased revenue beyond other clubs, creating a buzz which helped attract players
(iii) Decline of the biggest rival in Liverpool: who after decades of stability through a consistent slow churn of managers stagnated then imploded: after a philosophy of bringing through 1-2 youth/reserves and buying 1-2 top players each year, managers in quick succession came and went, each took a scatter-gun policy to recruitment (see any similarities here?)

Impacting later, European football's "home-grown" rule led to the introduction of the class of 92 into the first team - half the squad cost nothing, more could be spent buying players for other areas.

Now the £100M a year every PL club gets from TV means every club has good players and it is harder to get the very best, even the dross costs far more.

United aren't competing against only one other club who have a big investment and challenge for a couple of years as it was in the 90s-00s (Blackburn, Newcastle, Arsenal, Leeds, Chelsea, Man City), there's genuine competition from 10 clubs in England, and as many again in Europe.

Originally Posted by Hector

(i) Taylor report - United were among the first to use the forced redevelopment to increase the stadium to increase revenue (via the PLC)
(ii) Better marketing: Sponsorship and merchandising increased revenue beyond other clubs, creating a buzz which helped attract players
(iii) Decline of the biggest rival in Liverpool: who after decades of stability through a consistent slow churn of managers stagnated then imploded: after a philosophy of bringing through 1-2 youth/reserves and buying 1-2 top players each year, managers in quick succession came and went, each took a scatter-gun policy to recruitment (see any similarities here?)

Impacting later, European football's "home-grown" rule led to the introduction of the class of 92 into the first team - half the squad cost nothing, more could be spent buying players for other areas.

Now the £100M a year every PL club gets from TV means every club has good players and it is harder to get the very best, even the dross costs far more.

United aren't competing against only one other club who have a big investment and challenge for a couple of years as it was in the 90s-00s (Blackburn, Newcastle, Arsenal, Leeds, Chelsea, Man City), there's genuine competition from 10 clubs in England, and as many again in Europe.

Originally Posted by believe

How?

He had a board that was more patient than most would have been, even back then. I’m not sure a board like that exists anywhere among the biggest clubs in Europe any longer. Our fortunes took an upturn just in the nick of time.