Defiant Jose: Pogba was a GIANT

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Pressed
Very
Well..

I am very critical of him, but in that first 35 mins he was part of an effective pressing game, starting with Rashford, stopped Chelsea establishing any flow.

Still needs to do far more.

Originally Posted by Tiberian

I am very critical of him, but in that first 35 mins he was part of an effective pressing game, starting with Rashford, stopped Chelsea establishing any flow.

Still needs to do far more.

we were excellent in that opening period and he was a big part of that, barely wasting any ball and swatting chelsea players off...

personally think that formation could be the answer for us and especially if we had a fully fit mhikitaryan playing off a striker as the 2...

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

we were excellent in that opening period and he was a big part of that, barely wasting any ball and swatting chelsea players off...

personally think that formation could be the answer for us and especially if we had a fully fit mhikitaryan playing off a striker as the 2...

Agreed. Not sure why the pogba bashing should include revisionism. As a team performance we were generally excellent prior to #@&%! getting sent. Set up superbly and seemed to be executing the gameplan effectively.

Must of been when he won 27% of his battles or the two tackles...

We did start very well...11 v 11 would of been a different games..

Doesn't hide from the fact though he was very poor, again...

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

What did he do in the 35 minutes prior to Herrera getting sent off ?

Held the ball well and did as much as everyone else. Protected the defence but what did the whole team do? It's like saying what did Rashford do, or Fellaini, or Herrera. We matched them until the card, then it was a mare.

Btw, it was 0-0 until the 51st minute. Herrera got sent off in the 34th.

Can't be arsed with anymore arguing over Pogba. It won't make any difference.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Must of been when he won 27% of his battles or the two tackles...

We did start very well...11 v 11 would of been a different games..

Doesn't hide from the fact though he was very poor, again...

bunks with the stats, never thought it would come to this.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Must of been when he won 27% of his battles or the two tackles...

We did start very well...11 v 11 would of been a different games..

Doesn't hide from the fact though he was very poor, again...

Can't beat stats tbf

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

Agreed. Not sure why the pogba bashing should include revisionism. As a team performance we were generally excellent prior to #@&%! getting sent. Set up superbly and seemed to be executing the gameplan effectively.

yep, and tbh i'm happy to defend the squealing little shit as well - thought he got wired in for once last night and don't think either of the yellows was warranted.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

we were excellent in that opening period and he was a big part of that, barely wasting any ball and swatting chelsea players off...

personally think that formation could be the answer for us and especially if we had a fully fit mhikitaryan playing off a striker as the 2...

It was a little odd, Jones at times played defensive midfield, did a man marking job, and then dropped into a standard CB position. There was even a point mid -way through the first half when Rojo was man marking Hazard, and followed him around midfield for 2/3 minutes. Get the right type of player in the back line, high level ball playing ability, and it could be a tactical nightmare for the opposition, highly flexible.

LVG flirted with it for the first month, a difficult system to find the right players for.

Originally Posted by magic_cantona

Held the ball well and did as much as everyone else. Protected the defence but what did the whole team do? It's like saying what did Rashford do, or Fellaini, or Herrera. We matched them until the card, then it was a mare.

Btw, it was 0-0 until the 51st minute. Herrera got sent off in the 34th.

Can't be arsed with anymore arguing over Pogba. It won't make any difference.

Only used the 35/34 minute mark as his felchers were using this as a bench mark for when things went south for the lad...

You don't expect more from him in games last night than winning two tackles in 51 minutes ?

A weak shot in the dying minutes ?

A failure to close down or retain possession ?

His faults were his own doing..they have been all season.

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

Can't beat stats tbf

most of the time, it is possible. so, I guess I win that argument either way.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

That's a blatant lie...

He did nothing of note in the first half, he was even worse in the second. Stop sugar coating his display...
It was diabolical...

The irony/wummery

His Birthday today...

Reading the comments on social media, I feel like I could earn a living as a pundit with my knowledge... And we all know how bad that is

"Waste of space"
"Waste of money"
"Worst player in the history of the game"
"Need to get rid next week"
"Worst player ever to pull on a United jersey"

As much as I, and the rest of the forum, are frustrated with his performances this season, why do these idiots even watch football? Why even allow them to have an opinion on the £#%&!ing game?

Originally Posted by shenwen

The irony/wummery

The shit marlo.

Probably used to praise Di Maria's work ethic.

Originally Posted by magic_cantona

The shit marlo.

Probably used to praise Di Maria's work ethic.

Poor lad is embarrassing.

Originally Posted by Tiberian

It was a little odd, Jones at times played defensive midfield, did a man marking job, and then dropped into a standard CB position. There was even a point mid -way through the first half when Rojo was man marking Hazard, and followed him around midfield for 2/3 minutes. Get the right type of player in the back line, high level ball playing ability, and it could be a tactical nightmare for the opposition, highly flexible.

LVG flirted with it for the first month, a difficult system to find the right players for.

very much so. united needs to be built around huge personalities in midfield, proper athletes able to play box to box who can also play. it's old fashioned, but that doesn't make it bad. from that base we can be far more expansive down the sides and free up the strikers more to do their job. the role has changed along with the rules on tackling, but as has been shown in england by kante just one of these types can turn a decent team into a title challenger, and as we know two of them together makes us almost unstoppable.