Should Ole build the side around Paul Aloysius Pogba?

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Thank you

It doesn't feel great, he should by now be lighting up the league....

I don't want to say I told people so, but........I did.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

You never mentioned Matic ?

Have you got Essiens calculator....sums are AOTS. How much is this mysterious RB you don't name...

Bale would struggle like £#%&! in the prem.

You’re suggesting I’ve mentioned sums you flapping #@&%!.

Clear £50m from the Pogba sale and we will have enough for Rice and Neves.

I’ll defer right back selection to our scouts.

Originally Posted by Cream

Fantastic player, has shown that he can perform while sharing a dressing room with the likes of Pirlo, Buffon, even Zlatan.

But he's won a world cup since then and strikes me as someone who wants to be the main man. Captain. Highest paid player. Leader in the dressing room.

Hugs and co. are no threat to his ego, but what if we sign some senior players with %@#$&!s? Will he throw his toys out of the perambulator?

Remember Zlatan publicly patting him on the head?? I don't think that can happen anymore.

Obviously the @#%&! wants away to Real in the medium term, so that's another factor...

Ignore his needs, sign whomever the £#%&! we want. Or give him the keys to the kingdom in the hope he sticks around for a few more seasons?

You decide.

You cant build a team around one single player. 1st reason is that said player, then gains a form of power within the team. E.G, Deciding who to play alongside, thinks themselves as an exemption to certain rules, become over-complacent, too comfortable.

2nd reason, other players wont respond to favouritism, each player has to be treated with the same respect and the same management as the rest. No player wants to be in any teammates shadow.

Fergie said it right from the off, no player is bigger than the club. The manager is the big chief. No single player can ever be the face of the club

When you think Man Utd, you immediately picture the badge. Not a player. Each and every player, plays for the badge, the shirt, the fans and the history of our beautiful club.

So to answer bluntly, No. The squad should not be built around Pogba. It wasn't around Ronaldo, Rooney, Giggs, Scholes, Cole, Van Nistelrooy. All, and many more, who have contributed more to us.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Thank you

It doesn't feel great, he should by now be lighting up the league....

A month ago and everyone was saying he was the best midfielder in the league. Form has dropped since then, as it does with all players.

Despite all nonsense, he’s had a very good season.
When he plays well, we play well.

Heads down for a full house..


what Ream said...

£#%&! the #@&%!

Pogba is a super talented worldie.

Also a massive, unreliable #@&%! with a shit character.

Get rid.

No one would want to sell him if he wasn't whoring himself to Madrid.

Even after his downing of tools earlier this season most of our fans rightly felt Mourinho's approach was shite with Pogba and supported him. And he turns around and says he dreams about Madrid after 3 years of not fulfilling his potential.....

No.

You need to be a genuine world class player who performs every week to a high level. Pogba isn't there and I have doubts he will get there. Still not sure where he should actually be played and not sure if a balanced team can be achieved with him in it, unless we clone Roy Keane.

How many players did Ferie 'build a team around'? Not many. Maybe Ruud and Ronaldo are arguable. And even the former is probably wrong as he got rid of his main provider. If someone slaps a ridiculous bid in (madrid, psg) then would be very tempted to get rid and attempt to have a proper go at revamping the midfield. It is piss poor.

Originally Posted by Coracao

No.

You need to be a genuine world class player who performs every week to a high level. Pogba isn't there and I have doubts he will get there. Still not sure where he should actually be played and not sure if a balanced team can be achieved with him in it, unless we clone Roy Keane.

How many players did Ferie 'build a team around'? Not many. Maybe Ruud and Ronaldo are arguable. And even the former is probably wrong as he got rid of his main provider. If someone slaps a ridiculous bid in (madrid, psg) then would be very tempted to get rid and attempt to have a proper go at revamping the midfield. It is piss poor.

Cantona?

Originally Posted by believe

Cantona?

These things are open to debate. Did we really change the side around for him or was he the final piece ? Ruud for example really led to a move away from 4-4-2. Tho people may argue Fergie did that for Keane and a general move to teams putting more in the middle. I think we have been lucky that we often haven't had one player who is significantly better than others.

Originally Posted by 92ToBury

Still time to delete this too. I never said £50m would get us Rice and Neves. We replace Matic and Pogba with Rice and Neves. We have Bale as main right sides forward and Lingard as deputy.

Literacy issues. Make allowances.

Originally Posted by Denis Irwell

Literacy issues. Make allowances.

Originally Posted by Denis Irwell

Literacy issues. Make allowances.

Originally Posted by 92ToBury

Get Varane, Bale and £50m in exchange. Buy Declan Rice from West and Neves from Wolves and a new right back. Job done.

I’d be happy with that deal for Pogba tbh. Bale could well be finished though, that’s the only worry.

Agree that Neves and a new RB should be prioritised, not sure on Rice myself although I haven’t seen much of him.

Originally Posted by barkabal

Heads down for a full house..


what Ream said...

£#%&! the #@&%!

Ream

Nope. He isn’t reliable.

Very talented lad but we’d move on from him in no time imo.

Originally Posted by AK14

I’d be happy with that deal for Pogba tbh. Bale could well be finished though, that’s the only worry.

Agree that Neves and a new RB should be prioritised, not sure on Rice myself although I haven’t seen much of him.

The big issue with Bale would be the wages but I think he'd come here with something to prove. Maybe Isco instead?

Go and get someone who genuinely has something to prove like sancho, chiesa or someone of that ilk.

fantastic player but would be better off cashing in on him and making some astute signings. his head has been turned imo.

Originally Posted by armchair

fantastic player but would be better off cashing in on him and making some astute signings. his head has been turned imo.

Every word true

...and to a degree, I don’t even blame him after the way we’ve been managed from the top to the Moyes, Mou and lvg £#%&! ups. Tbf, it was just as likely Woowoo responsible for the Fellaini, Alcantara, Kroos fiascos and Woowoo responsible for us bringing in Schwein, Falcao, Sanchez, Valdez, Di Maria, Zlatan, Fred, mostly because they were old and cheap and that’s on top of Owen + Hargreaves etc in the no value years when the coffers were bursting with unprecedented Ronaldo money, whilst some of the most obvious top players being snatched from under our noses by lesser clubs when they were a shoe in for us. Ole looks a good appointment but Christ, he has his work cut out with these £#%&!ers running the show. Poggers and his @#%&! of an agent might be after a bigger pay day but I’d say he wants trophies at the end of the day.

I doubt we'll sign a player again on Sanchez wages or even close.

We'll go noncey and get them young. Fee's can be high still but their wages will be £150k a week.

Anybody signing Bale is insane. He'll go to PSG or Bayern.