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The law states that if the ball is not in play a foul cannot be given. Therefore any physical challenge is deemed 'violent conduct', but as they are laws they are open to interpretation by the person in charge. An assessor wouldn't have marked a referee down if they had given a penalty there. After all, what does 'in play' mean. If he is taking that shot from 25 yards and it's clearly going wide, and Cole does the same thing (height, nature and timing) and the ball is still traveling and Cole catches him knee high, it is a free-kick and a red card. For me, in this instance 'in play' means the ball, or play, coming to some kind of logical stop or conclusion, like Cole's slide coming to end, Hernandez head in hands having missed or ball in the crowd, rather than the ball just past the post. Anything after that, the ball is dead and a tackle after that is violent conduct and a red card. The crux is, nowhere does it state that the ball has to be within the lines for it to be 'in-play', so it is entirely up to the referee to decide what in-play means. I think it might have been a case of Dowd not properly seeing it so didn't want to give ANOTHER penalty for something he wasn't entirely sure, same with not giving him a red card. |
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you can argue whether it was deliberate, but it's not really important. reckless at best. clear red. if the ball was out of play by the time the assault landed, that only shows how £#%&!ing late the challenge was.
and the @#%&! £#%&!ing argued about the yellow as well. |
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Ball Out of Play The ball is out of play when: • it has wholly crossed the goal line or touch line whether on the ground or in the air • play has been stopped by the referee Ball In Play The ball is in play at all other times, including when: • it rebounds off a goalpost, crossbar or corner flagpost and remains in the fi eld of play • it rebounds off either the referee or an assistant referee when they are on the fi eld of play |
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Still think it's open to interpretation |
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with cole, he initiated the reckless challenge when the ball was in play. you can't really divorce the contact from the take-off (there doesn't even need to be contact for a foul). red and penalry if dowd had any balls. |
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He saw rouge and we missed the pen |
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