Antony

Think 7/10 is a stretch. Would snatch your hand off for some of those…

He did ok last night. Wasn’t brilliant, but was certainly as good or better than anyone else in our attack, so that’s something I suppose.

Still think there’s a player in there, just needs a bit of confidence back.

Originally Posted by Finport Red

He did ok last night. Wasn’t brilliant, but was certainly as good or better than anyone else in our attack, so that’s something I suppose.

Still think there’s a player in there, just needs a bit of confidence back.

Exactly (there is a player there btw)

Everyone wanted him drop
Manager drops him
Comes back in, plays well


"ZERO attacking threat..."



It's like listening to Scousers or really bad Wums...some people would have preferred us best lady night and him to have a stinker....

Originally Posted by Finport Red

He did ok last night. Wasn’t brilliant, but was certainly as good or better than anyone else in our attack, so that’s something I suppose.

Still think there’s a player in there, just needs a bit of confidence back.

Is confidence the problem? Or has he been figured out?

The Premier League is a much higher standard and his trick of trying to cut in on his left and score doesn't take too long to stop. I litereally don't see anything else in his arsenal.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Exactly (there is a player there btw)

Everyone wanted him drop
Manager drops him
Comes back in, plays well


"ZERO attacking threat..."



It's like listening to Scousers or really bad Wums...some people would have preferred us best lady night and him to have a stinker....

Dude he didn’t play well. He just didn’t play bad. 5/10 - 6 if we’re being really generous.

Originally Posted by Gypsum Fantastic

Dude he didn’t play well. He just didn’t play bad. 5/10 - 6 if we’re being really generous.

Set up and involved in three clear cut chances in the first 20 minutes....

He was our biggest attacking threat and did his defensive dutysvtoo.


"dude"

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Set up and involved in three clear cut chances in the first 20 minutes....

He was our biggest attacking threat

World’s tallest dwarf cuz. We were cack going forwards. I think McTom was actually the biggest threat and he had 4 touches in their box.

I’m sticking at 5/10 bro.

Originally Posted by silv

Is confidence the problem? Or has he been figured out?

The Premier League is a much higher standard and his trick of trying to cut in on his left and score doesn't take too long to stop. I litereally don't see anything else in his arsenal.

That's the point. We can kid ourselves that he needs confidence, game time or whatever, but that's all nonsense. Doesn't mean he can't get better but he needs some serious coaching. That little cut inside just isn't going to erm, cut it against PL defenders. Too easy to read. It's the big difference between him and Garnacho.

He's generally good at the little passes and can be a tidy player but his lack of a right foot means if the left is blocked, he's too often turning out of trouble and playing the ball backwards. Very frustrating.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Set up and involved in three clear cut chances in the first 20 minutes....

He was our biggest attacking threat and did his defensive dutysvtoo.


"dude"

or missed a sitter and chose a horribly wrong pass in the first 20 mins.

he actually did better defensively.

dalot was our biggest attacking threat.

Originally Posted by Ethers

Nice little appearance bonus for him. Good management.

Definitely a bit of psychologically in that

Get them on the stage without expectations. Crossing that white line when low in conf… not talking about @#%&!s like Pogba, Martial, Rashford etc

He was somewhere between ok and shit. If people are marking him as 7/10
for last night then we’re well and truly £#%&!ed as a club. He was at best average in another calamitous team performance. He disappeared entirely in the second half apart from chasing back a few times.

He’ll be out of the door as soon as anyone competent with actual eyes gets control of this squad.

Originally Posted by Denis Irwell

Definitely a bit of psychologically in that

Get them on the stage without expectations. Crossing that white line when low in conf… not talking about @#%&!s like Pogba, Martial, Rashford etc

Don’t think any player gets a confidence boost from being brought on in the dying seconds.

Originally Posted by Gypsum Fantastic

Don’t think any player gets a confidence boost from being brought on in the dying seconds.

The 98th minute.

‘Go on Ant, get on there and give it to them…’

‘Phweeep’

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Manager best lady night

I can usually work the typos out but 'best lady' has done me.?



'Dude, cuz, bro' can go straight on ignore

Originally Posted by suedeshoes

I can usually work the typos out but 'best lady' has done me.?



'Dude, cuz, bro' can go straight on ignore

"Beat last night" *

Originally Posted by suedeshoes

I can usually work the typos out but 'best lady' has done me.?

'Dude, cuz, bro' can go straight on ignore

Harsh that laa…

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

He was somewhere between ok and shit. If people are marking him as 7/10
for last night then we’re well and truly £#%&!ed as a club. He was at best average in another calamitous team performance. He disappeared entirely in the second half apart from chasing back a few times.

He’ll be out of the door as soon as anyone competent with actual eyes gets control of this squad.

I was considering 7/10 to be average. Was trying to be nice to the lad. . My point being even when he apparently plays okay, it's nowhere near any standard we should be aiming for. Agree with the last line. No decent coach is going to settle for a one footed winger who struggles to put a shot on target even with his good foot. Not even those three 10-yard passes in one game are going to save him.

Originally Posted by RedNick80

For me this is a stretch, and a very low bar at that. He was OK and hopefully a good platform for him to grow.

You could argue that he missed the target when he hit the bar, should have kept it down and we'd all probably be celebrating a goal.

If he can play a bit part role till the end of the season then great and we get a bit more money for him because from what I've seen he's not up to it. Its a shame because his effort supporting the full back is as good as I've seen, but that's not enough.

There's no argument. It was a miss.

Originally Posted by shenwen

There's no argument. It was a miss.

the bar was set too low. not his fault.

4 attempted dribbles last night, 0 successful. He can't beat a man so he cuts inside, every, single, time. (or lays it off back to FB).

Originally Posted by Time For Heroes

4 attempted dribbles last night, 0 successful. He can't beat a man so he cuts inside, every, single, time. (or lays it off back to FB).

Being too weak and slow to beat a full back is a real hinderance to being a winger in this profession.

Are the full backs all really slow and weak in the Eredivisie and Ten Hag didn't realise the difference?