Footballers' heart problems

Originally Posted by est.1878

Number of times I rememver a player with a heart issue in the 90s when they smoked and drank like fishes = zero

Then Wenger came in with his pasta menu......

Originally Posted by Switching Off

Then Wenger came in with his pasta menu......

Pastatack..

It's the vaccine......

Originally Posted by measlyshark

The spike protein binds to the ace-2 receptor in endothelial cells. The heart has a lot of endothelial cells. When it binds you have a localised non specific immune response resulting in inflammation and these heart issues being discussed.

If you have the vaccine some protein will reach the heart and cause this.

If you have COVID, more virus/protein will escape the respiratory system and cause more of this response.

About 6x more.

So a footballer (and everyone) has two options.

1. Take the vaccine and risks the side effects.
2. Don't take the vaccine and risk catching COVID, with a risk factor of 6X of the first option.

I'd say the chance of not catching it is pretty low, so it's fairly dangerous.

It's likely exacerbated by footballers placing a lot of stress on the heart.

It's shit that this is happening but it's also shit that about 17.5 million people have died.

I'll try and remember to bookmark this for when I next have to explain the same £#%&!ing thing.....

Measly, 17 M died but is that more or less who die from influenza every year? genuine question, are we over egging covid as a disease or should we just "live with it"

Lindelof update

think he had a collision with another player and he had problems breathing for more than 10 minutes. His heart rate was higher than normal and he was a little bit shocked, he didn’t know how to deal with it. We had to replace him.

“After the game, we did some check-ups and some examinations by the doctor, it seems everything is okay. We still have to see how he is doing tomorrow. Hopefully, he will be fit for the game against Brentford.”

I never knew that so many scientists posted on here.

Originally Posted by suedeshoes

I never knew that so many scientists posted on here.

Few scientists maybe but too many narcs

Probably more to do with the special supplementary drinks they're on than anything else.

Originally Posted by Spock

Measly, 17 M died but is that more or less who die from influenza every year? genuine question, are we over egging covid as a disease or should we just "live with it"

Flu, a few hundred to a couple of thousand in the UK. Flu and pneumonia, 7,000 20 25,000 (ISH). We've probably got a decent approach now, the problem is that we leave large parts of the world unvaccinated (by we I mean rich Western countries) you get new variants, which could be worse or better. I mean it's not like this hasn't been made clear from the virologists already.

Originally Posted by Bion

Lindelof update

think he had a collision with another player and he had problems breathing for more than 10 minutes. His heart rate was higher than normal and he was a little bit shocked, he didn’t know how to deal with it. We had to replace him.

“After the game, we did some check-ups and some examinations by the doctor, it seems everything is okay. We still have to see how he is doing tomorrow. Hopefully, he will be fit for the game against Brentford.”

So are we saying that the vaccine vastly increases the effects of being winded?

Originally Posted by Big Norm

So are we saying that the vaccine vastly increases the effects of being winded?

I have not had the vaccines and nor have I been winded. Proof if proof be need be.

Originally Posted by Red_Rizla

I have not had the vaccines and nor have I been winded. Proof if proof be need be.

Cheers mate. A valuable contribution to the debate there.

Originally Posted by Big Norm

Cheers mate. A valuable contribution to the debate there.

Most welcome. As for the data, I’d like to see similar figures for, say, 2018 or 1996 (random pre-covid years) Has there really been a significant increase in elite athletes’ heart-related problems, or are such instances being more widely reported now?

Originally Posted by est.1878

Number of times I rememver a player with a heart issue in the 90s when they smoked and drank like fishes = zero

Maybe with how the internet is is now with social media you are always connected to information. The 90s had none of that. It’s all easy thinking back then XYZ didn’t happen but it did. Public just didn’t have as much access to information as they are now.

Originally Posted by Dasilvatwins

Maybe with how the internet is is now with social media you are always connected to information. The 90s had none of that. It’s all easy thinking back then XYZ didn’t happen but it did. Public just didn’t have as much access to information as they are now.

Mate I scrolled teletext and ceefax 90pc of my free time :0)

Oh they've got a heart have they?

Originally Posted by est.1878

Mate I scrolled teletext and ceefax 90pc of my free time :0)

Ah 302 and 303. Was 303 latest scores?

I remember they used advertise a premium phone line for transfer gossip . Never did it

Originally Posted by Dasilvatwins

Ah 302 and 303. Was 303 latest scores?

I remember they used advertise a premium phone line for transfer gossip . Never did it

Yep, clubcall. Utd were always headline story, nqat.

Originally Posted by est.1878

Yep, clubcall. Utd were always headline story, nqat.

“goal ace linked”

Did Ginola, Muamba and Marc Vivien Foe have the vaccine then?