Sir Alexander Chapman Ferguson

Originally Posted by Argentina

I was saying this to my dad today. It's a testament to Ferguson that we have so many average players yet we manage to play such good football (at times), be so competitive and win trophies.
He doesn't take the best player in each position in the world, or that is available. He takes what he needs to make the whole greater than the sum of its parts.

Originally Posted by borsuk

Incredible, innit?

Not really. That front line today was Carrick, Fletcher, Park, Valencia, Owen/Rooney, Berbatov.

I would say only Rooney would get in Chelsea's front 6. Maybe Fletcher as a hard sell. And none of them compare to the front 6 of 99 or 94.

However, that 6 as a whole is far greater than the sum of its parts.

Hardly 'incredible innit' or

i'd sooner eat thatcher out than £#%&! that @#%&! cameron's hereditary hound of a wife. hth (doesn't) happen

Chelsea midfield yesterday was lampard, cole, mikel and ballack.

I personally wouldn't take any of them for Fletcher, though lampard's stats show how he's the bestest English midfielder ever, I just can't stand the @#%&!.

Remember the class he took his red card with against Arsenal and then look again at the above list of Chelsea midfielders.

I'll leave the Berbatov>anelka, Valencia>all for someone else.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

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Words cannot accurately describe how much we owe this man.

Have been thinking the same thing ever since number 18.

Originally Posted by Spiffy

I saw her on the telly earlier, she's not that nice at all tbf.

arranged marriages to inbreds can't be choosers

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Originally Posted by Argentina

Not really. That front line today was Carrick, Fletcher, Park, Valencia, Owen/Rooney, Berbatov.

I would say only Rooney would get in Chelsea's front 6. Maybe Fletcher as a hard sell. And none of them compare to the front 6 of 99 or 94.

However, that 6 as a whole is far greater than the sum of its parts.

Hardly 'incredible innit' or

carrick and fletcher > mikel and %@#$&! by a long way. and malouda or valencia? tough one


but that's not the point. you didn't say 'would get into chelsea's side'. you said 'average players', which is simply idiotic.

Originally Posted by Argentina

I was saying this to my dad today. It's a testament to Ferguson that we have so many average players yet we manage to play such good football (at times), be so competitive and win trophies.
He doesn't take the best player in each position in the world, or that is available. He takes what he needs to make the whole greater than the sum of its parts.

Originally Posted by Argentina

Not really. That front line today was Carrick, Fletcher, Park, Valencia, Owen/Rooney, Berbatov.

I would say only Rooney would get in Chelsea's front 6. Maybe Fletcher as a hard sell. And none of them compare to the front 6 of 99 or 94.

However, that 6 as a whole is far greater than the sum of its parts.

Hardly 'incredible innit' or

Total nonsense.

Originally Posted by magic_cantona

Total nonsense.

I'm not sure it is actually.

I think Ferie works better with teams who aren't full of 'best in position'/'walk into Chelsea' type players. We usually have one or two world-class but have never had a team who apart are all the best in their respective positions.

He works best with squads like ours at the moment. It's like this idea of 'squad depth' when commentators say 'well, thing is with Manchester United is they always have class waiting in the sidelines'. I'm not sure we do, although I'm not sure it matters.

Originally Posted by Sullingtons

I'm not sure it is actually.

I think Ferie works better with teams who aren't full of 'best in position'/'walk into Chelsea' type players. We usually have one or two world-class but have never had a team who apart are all the best in their respective positions.

He works best with squads like ours at the moment. It's like this idea of 'squad depth' when commentators say 'well, thing is with Manchester United is they always have class waiting in the sidelines'. I'm not sure we do, although I'm not sure it matters.

I don't think you're sure what you're on about tbh.

Originally Posted by MUFC One Love

I don't think you're sure what you're on about tbh.

I'm not sure I am.

Originally Posted by MUFC One Love

I don't think you're sure what you're on about tbh.

Originally Posted by Sullingtons

I'm not sure I am.

Agreed

This Chelsea argument, how many of their players would get into our team?

Cech - No, he's made a lot more mistakes than VDS over the past couple of seasons.And shits his pants and flaps anytime a cross come in.
Ashley Cole - No.Evra > Cole
Terry - Rio > Terry
Carvalho - Maybe ahead of Vidic, maybe not.Debatable.Yesterday, Vidic made a horrendous error but was then superb.Seems that's how he's been for a while.
Ivanovic - No.Brown at RB, Rafa at RB > Ivanovic imo.
Ballack - No.Carrick > Ballack, by a good distance.
Lampard - I honestly wouldn't leave Fletcher out for him.Maybe some would though.
Malouda - No.Valencia > Malouda
Mikel - No. Any of our midfield, maybe even Gibbo > Mikel
Joe Cole (Always played on the left, when he gets a game) No. Giggs/Nani > Cole.

Drogba - Yes. I'm sure most would have him and Wazza up front.
Anelka - Not scored in a while, wouldn't swap him for Berbs anyway, personally.

Put us up, man to man, against Liverpool and Arsenal too and we'd have more in the starting 11.No danger.

Originally Posted by magic_cantona

Agreed

This Chelsea argument, how many of their players would get into our team?

Cech - No, he's made a lot more mistakes than VDS over the past couple of seasons.And shits his pants and flaps anytime a cross come in.
Ashley Cole - No.Evra > Cole
Terry - Rio > Terry
Carvalho - Maybe ahead of Vidic, maybe not.Debatable.Yesterday, Vidic made a horrendous error but was then superb.Seems that's how he's been for a while.
Ivanovic - No.Brown at RB, Rafa at RB > Ivanovic imo.
Ballack - No.Carrick > Ballack, by a good distance.
Lampard - I honestly wouldn't leave Fletcher out for him.Maybe some would though.
Malouda - No.Valencia > Malouda
Mikel - No. Any of our midfield, maybe even Gibbo > Mikel
Joe Cole (Always played on the left, when he gets a game) No. Giggs/Nani > Cole.

Drogba - Yes. I'm sure most would have him and Wazza up front.
Anelka - Not scored in a while, wouldn't swap him for Berbs anyway, personally.

Put us up, man to man, against Liverpool and Arsenal too and we'd have more in the starting 11.No danger.

£#%&!ing hell one trip to wembley and you've become the toppest red of reds.

Originally Posted by believe

£#%&!ing hell one trip to wembley and you've become the toppest red of reds.

Maggers will be dressing like Betty soon.

Originally Posted by believe

£#%&!ing hell one trip to wembley and you've become the toppest red of reds.

BGR.

Originally Posted by MUFC One Love

Maggers will be dressing like Betty soon.

£#%&! off!

I just can't see the attraction of looking like a younger Bet Gilroy, but with shitter hair and plimsole shoes.

Originally Posted by MUFC One Love

Maggers will be dressing like Betty soon.

i dont know what would be worse, that or his panini outfit

With Vidic, it is worth remembering yesterday was only his 2nd game this year.

Originally Posted by dunk

With Vidic, it is worth remembering yesterday was only his 2nd game this year.

If he continues to defend like he did in the first 25 minutes, he wont be playing many more.

Originally Posted by That Boy Ronaldo!

If he continues to defend like he did in the first 25 minutes, he wont be playing many more.

True, I prefer to think of him defending as he did for the last 65 though