John Murtough

Originally Posted by Baron

City have recouped £230m this year apparently.

They pay players fortunes. Utd are f***ing idiots. It’s not Murtough, it’s systemic over the past decade and how poorly were run.

City are basically farming footballers via a network of clubs throughout the globe. It’s a huge money laundering exercise. Don’t believe any of the figures involved imo.

Originally Posted by marlo

the fact murtough has decided to bring saf and gill back into the fold says it all.

he is more concerned with the optics regarding united.

there is next to nothing that points towards the future about bringing back our manager and ceo from a decade a go.

apparently that was Richard Arnold's decision. I dont think Fergie has been out of the fold, it was him who got Ole in in on the interim and also Darren Fletcher as a director of football.

Originally Posted by marlo

A lot of our most recent ridiculous and lucrative contracts were handed out by a certain manager.

anyone else and it would have been mentioned more.

“Reboot”

STILL BLAMING OLE FFS WHILST WE ARE STILL STUCK WITH PLAYERS FROM THE ONE BEFORE THAT

Originally Posted by puressence

STILL BLAMING OLE FFS WHILST WE ARE STILL STUCK WITH PLAYERS FROM THE ONE BEFORE THAT

because he gave them new contracts

Originally Posted by marlo

because he gave them new contracts

Woodward dished out the contracts. It’s been discussed many, many times and detailed in recent interviews. The strategy being that the players were worth more on the balance sheet on large contracts. The manager never had a say in it.

That and it’s cheaper to keep and pay a player than it is to buy a replacement.

Originally Posted by Baron

City have recouped £230m this year apparently.

They pay players fortunes. Utd are f***ing idiots. It’s not Murtough, it’s systemic over the past decade and how poorly were run.

It’s pretty much down to one man: Woodward.

I maintain that he is the worst thing to ever happen to united. A competent CEO organising a well run club can still operate successfully under the glazer ownership handicap. But this absolute arrogant out of his depth b*****d has set us back decades.

The list of crimes under his watch are too numerous to name but it will take years to re-emerge from what this c*** has done.

Bringing Fergie back in is f***ing mental. Most of this shit happened whilst he still had influence.

Darren Fletcher? Wtaf? f***ing jock favouritism

Originally Posted by marlo

because he gave them new contracts

For a self proclaimed footballing financial genius you don't seem to grasp who was handing out the gross contracts.

What players are we still stuck with from Jose’s time?

Originally Posted by believe

What players are we still stuck with from Jose’s time?

Bailly, Lindelof, Fred, Dalot

Originally Posted by dunk

Bailly, Lindelof, Fred, Dalot

I thought you liked Dalot. Those three are not the best, but hardly his most egregious crimes. Those are long gone thank god.

Originally Posted by utd99

I thought you liked Dalot. Those three are not the best, but hardly his most egregious crimes. Those are long gone thank god.

Dalot is a place holder at best. He’s not actually good at anything, but tries hard.

I’d argue few of them were actual Mourinho signings tbh. None of them fit the mould of someone he’d actively want the club to pursue.

Originally Posted by dunk

Bailly, Lindelof, Fred, Dalot

Ah the three players who between them will probably rack up more appearances than any other player under the new manager who we all think is the best manager for the job.

Originally Posted by dunk

Dalot is a place holder at best. He’s not actually good at anything, but tries hard.

I’d argue few of them were actual Mourinho signings tbh. None of them fit the mould of someone he’d actively want the club to pursue.

In a year or twos time Erik might want a team that doesn't contain DDG, Maguire Shaw even dare I say Bruno.
Do you think the club has the expertise/nouse even appetite to make that happen?
If not are we really prepared to back ETH or is he here to make what we've got work better?

Originally Posted by believe

Ah the three players who between them will probably rack up more appearances than any other player under the new manager who we all think is the best manager for the job.

Bailly and Lindelof? Are you sure?

Fred by default, Dalot too.

They aren’t playing because they’re good, they’re playing because the club’s recruitment is inept.

Can’t believe people are still going on about ole v Mou.

Originally Posted by dunk

Bailly and Lindelof? Are you sure?

Fred by default, Dalot too.

They aren’t playing because they’re good, they’re playing because the club’s recruitment is inept.

Didn’t see Bailly to be fair Ten Hag’s biggest praise so far has been managing to get rid of the deadwood. He obviously doesn’t think these are.

It’s just that all the arguments are very contradictory, we’ll be saying whoever’s been signed so far weren’t his signings in a month or two.

They aren’t until replacements arrive. They can’t sell Fred when Beek is his replacement ffs

None of those 4 are or have ever been the required standard, we’re stuck with them occupying first team places and money as we’ve not been able to buy adequate upgrades because we’re shit at transfers.

Lindelof should be 4th choice ffs, but Varane is a crock and Maguire a halfwit.

The players that have arrived are clearly ETH picks, he knows and has worked with 2 of them previous and had targeted Malacia for Ajax.

It’s been well documented that we’ve scrapped those responsible for identifying and suggesting players to be recruited this year and started from scratch.

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

Can’t believe people are still going on about ole v Mou.

Ole was a placeholder out of his depth but Mourinho was an actual malevolent spirit. Wouldn’t be surprised if he cast voodoo on the club before he left.
No question who was worse for United.

The squad actually looked OK in some respects after last season business .. midfield has been gutted further now though & we f***ed Up by going for Ronaldo as CF when we had CL football to offer and some momentum after ‘21

https://twitter.com/utdplug/status/1572922573565853706?s=46&t=FupyVnpvJ7ieDM9mI4AcNw

Originally Posted by believe

Didn’t see Bailly to be fair Ten Hag’s biggest praise so far has been managing to get rid of the deadwood. He obviously doesn’t think these are.

It’s just that all the arguments are very contradictory, we’ll be saying whoever’s been signed so far weren’t his signings in a month or two.

It’s ok, mate. Woodward gone.