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I can't see any long term gain in sacking him, especially right before it looks as though there's going to be some sweeping changes in the structure above him.
We've been the demented magic roundabout of managers over the past decade, tried and proven managers made to look like utter £#%&!wits over and over again. It's entirely possible that ETH is a king of bald frauds, but with the club being a basket case both above and below him it's impossible to really tell whether he is or not, and spending millions sacking him to replace him with another sorry sacrifice without addressing the other issues at the club first is completely pointless. |
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People just want the sense of catharsis from sacking someone who isn't working out, but they don't think too much about the next step. 'Explore the market' like marlo says isn't a plan. Neither is taking a wild punt on someone who looks good but has won nothing. The thing is, EtH was supposed to be the plan. Finally, we all thought, they seem to have done their research and got someone in with a long-term 'project' for the squad, a vision of some sort, who has a decent record of trophies albeit in a poor league. Only now it's all gone completely and utterly to shit, as shenners says, we're backed into a corner as giving him more money to spend is a terrifying prospect. We've not recovered from the hammering at Anfield and as painful as it is to admit it, it might well have done for us for the foreseeable future. And they could easily do it again on Sunday. I've no idea what the solution is tbh
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Difficult to see him surviving this spell. And he hasn't done himself any favours. The football is terrible, we look as badly coached as ever, majority of his signings have been woeful and team selections and subs at times utterly bizarre. His team continually crumble in adversity, often conceding multiple goals in quick succession. Not really sure how is going to improve things currently, given how p!so poor players he clearly wanted have performed.
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Although very unlucky vs Arsenal and Spurs, we can't beat a "top" team. The collapses are embarrassing and EtH can't seem to implement a plan that makes us solid when under the cosh. We simply cave in. Playing Rashford for so long whilst starkly out of form. Playing Martial despite it being totally obvious to everyone that he's the laziest @#%&! in the clubs history. No change in formation to stem the flow of goals or to stop teams walking through us. I could go on but you get the list. Some of his decisions are baffling and his inability to react and try something different is engraging. Last night, our left back gets injured. He's got a left back on the bench. He brings on a right back who doesn't like playing left back. Why? 
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or maybe you come out of the delusion arena you are in… his training methods has everything to do with it. every other top club has the same internationals as us , most teams went on a similar preseason than us so that can’t be an excuse. some of our players get mysterious injuries in training and are never seen again…. Like malacia…. How came players that literally just start training with his pick up huge injuries like amad, Mount, etc It’s whatever he is doing. We never had so many concurrent injuries before he joined. |
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I find that Schumpeter's theory of creative destruction can be used to illustrate our current predicament
 Under Ferguson the whole point of the club (well the point of the team I guess) was to win matches and trophies. BUT, since he left the "point" of the club has been to make money with the smallest amount of outlay (whether in terms of money or effort). The players cottoned on to this years ago -- they know that the club can't afford to replace them all so they therefore need to do just enough to secure a new contract because the club knows that it's cheaper to extend the contract of a current player than to sign a new one. So by all means shout at the players for their dismal performances. I actually think we should start threatening some of them in the street so as to motivate them. But we shouldn't actually be surprised at them for doing the absolute minimum to remain on their undeserved wages. Any serious football club would get rid of them, but at United they get new contracts. All the players are doing is being rational actors. Why try harder? there's no point. Every 2 years the Glazers sack the manager, but strangely enough nothing changes. |
