Casemiro

Thought he was injured..

Getting back to his best.

Goal machine...

Leader...

Big Dog.

other than Rashford and Bruno whose actually outscored him in his time with us? For a defensive midfielder that’s madness..

Hopefully the Saudi’s come in for him next summer

I think at this stage he’s had more poor performances for us than good

I’m not even sure it’s because his legs have gone as the biggest issue with him is how many simple passes he £#%&!s up
It’s like a lack of focus and attention to detail

Maybe we finally take the lesson and don’t sign experienced top players at the end of their careers

Glad he took him off at half time today but he shouldn’t start the next game
I’d play Amrabat, Mainoo and then let Bruno and Mount fight for the creative role in the midfield

Real Madrid don’t sell their best players. They knew he and Varane were past it and pulled our pants down for a crock and a has-been. And went out and got Bellingham.
There was a time we used to have that kind of ruthless recruitment policy. Sigh.

Not quite that simple really is it.

We’re just not in the discussion anymore when it comes to signing the very best players in the world, so the Bellinghams of this world are pretty much an irrelevance to our transfer policy.

We’re looking at a level below that, or players that were the very best in the world but now coming out of their prime.

Originally Posted by Ethers

Not quite that simple really is it.

We’re just not in the discussion anymore when it comes to signing the very best players in the world, so the Bellinghams of this world are pretty much an irrelevance to our transfer policy.

We’re looking at a level below that, or players that were the very best in the world but now coming out of their prime.

I agree with you, sadly, but United have lacked experienced leaders for a decade. Of course Varane and Casemiro are past their prime, but the logic behind buying them is there. Take them both out of the team (which they do themselves with injuries and suspensions) and where are our leaders?

Originally Posted by Ethers

Not quite that simple really is it.

We’re just not in the discussion anymore when it comes to signing the very best players in the world, so the Bellinghams of this world are pretty much an irrelevance to our transfer policy.

We’re looking at a level below that, or players that were the very best in the world but now coming out of their prime.

The cloth should've but cut acordingly with transfers long ago. If we're operating under the Glazer ownership we should've been looking to buy lots of players, early and grow our own leaders and superstars. Unfortunately the fans won't allow it from a patience point of view, look at the state of them after a ropey start to the season, and the Glazer's wanted a policy that went for big names and established stars and wouldn't take the risk on players that weren't guaranteed to be top players, ironically.

Originally Posted by dunk

The cloth should've but cut acordingly with transfers long ago. If we're operating under the Glazer ownership we should've been looking to buy lots of players, early and grow our own leaders and superstars. Unfortunately the fans won't allow it from a patience point of view, look at the state of them after a ropey start to the season, and the Glazer's wanted a policy that went for big names and established stars and wouldn't take the risk on players that weren't guaranteed to be top players, ironically.

Fair assessment.

It’s generally been about getting players to make an immediate impact, rather than any long term coherent plan.

Originally Posted by windy waffles

Getting back to his best.

Goal machine...

Leader...

Big Dog.

Waffles with his finger on the pulse again…

Originally Posted by Gypsum Fantastic

Waffles with his finger on the pulse again…

Where is winders anyway? FOTY pressure/expectancy gotten to him?

Originally Posted by magic_cantona

Where is winders anyway? FOTY pressure/expectancy gotten to him?

Been bullied off again.....

Big dog has lost his bite.....

Originally Posted by Ethers

Not quite that simple really is it.

We’re just not in the discussion anymore when it comes to signing the very best players in the world, so the Bellinghams of this world are pretty much an irrelevance to our transfer policy.

We’re looking at a level below that, or players that were the very best in the world but now coming out of their prime.

Yes, that's my point. We've gone from picking up the best young players like Rooney and Ronaldo, stars on the rise, to settling for Real Madrid's cast offs they've had enough of anyway. There was a time United would have done whatever it took to get Bellingham, and now it's not even remotely on the radar because our recruitment is all over the place.

Originally Posted by Zorg

Yes, that's my point. We've gone from picking up the best young players like Rooney and Ronaldo, stars on the rise, to settling for Real Madrid's cast offs they've had enough of anyway. There was a time United would have done whatever it took to get Bellingham, and now it's not even remotely on the radar because our recruitment is all over the place.

Yup.

Still using the Woodward model of signing ‘marketable stars’ and even when we do sign younger players of the rise, we over pay like we did with Antony.

Bellingham could've made more money at United than at Dortmund or Real and he turned us down twice. He's managed his career well. Had he come to United from Birmingham he'd probably be training by himself by now and taking hippy crack in the evenings.

Originally Posted by armchair

Bellingham could've made more money at United than at Dortmund or Real and he turned us down twice. He's managed his career well. Had he come to United from Birmingham he'd probably be training by himself by now and taking hippy crack in the evenings.

Doing podcasts with Diary of a CEO talking about breaking into Hollywood.

Originally Posted by Zorg

Yes, that's my point. We've gone from picking up the best young players like Rooney and Ronaldo, stars on the rise, to settling for Real Madrid's cast offs they've had enough of anyway. There was a time United would have done whatever it took to get Bellingham, and now it's not even remotely on the radar because our recruitment is all over the place.

Or the best players in the world don’t see joining United as a step up in their careers?

Originally Posted by believe

Or the best players in the world don’t see joining United as a step up in their careers?

Pretty much. Our only chance to get Bellingham was when he left Birmingham, which we tried our best to do. We’re just not in the conversation for a truly elite player moving to an elite club. Having the best recruitment policy ever won’t change that in the short term

Originally Posted by believe

Or the best players in the world don’t see joining United as a step up in their careers?

Originally Posted by Ethers

Pretty much. Our only chance to get Bellingham was when he left Birmingham, which we tried our best to do. We’re just not in the conversation for a truly elite player moving to an elite club. Having the best recruitment policy ever won’t change that in the short term

Yep. This is exactly what I'm saying, but obviously not very successfully

Basically, we used to be good, and we could get the best up and coming players (especially British ones), and now we're shit, and we can't, and that's depressing, so I'm having a good old moan.

The Big Dog.