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Lingard is far too important to this side to be considered a squad player. And that reflects poorly on this side. He starts many of our biggest games as our centrally, just off the front. Arguably the most important area of the pitch in a creative sense. He is nowhere near good enough for that. Or at least where we aspire to be. It's all well and good saying he's good enough for now... but we're not good enough now. This is good enough. Improve it, Don't accept it. We shouldn't remove him because he is homegrown any more than we should keep him because he's homegrown. The fact he is not good enough to be as important as he is. He should be sold or have his game time significantly reduced (to the of an actual squad player) Is he our biggest problem? No. Is he a problem? Yes. Quote:
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It's also a fair point to say he starts important games and was rushed back from injury because Ole sees him as a big part of his plans Either way you look at it, its shocking. I see O Shea and Butt mentioned here... Just no.. Not even comparable |
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If United win the big trophies again the team will have outgrown Lingard. And off the back of last season it will not take long to reach the latter point.
Butt - midfield Fletcher - midfield O'Shea - defence / midfield P Nev - defence / midfield Brown - defence How many attackers in their late 20s did Fergie rely on as "squad players"? Blomqvist was younger than Lingard now. So that's Park and... We had guys who were bought around 26-27 to offer an option (Smith, Saha) but injuries plagued them. And we had players who went from starting quality to being phased out (our current manager for example). Lingard at this point in time, at age 26 and in this state of the team is not a great squad option. Why on earth would he be one in 3/4 years? Because the quality around him improves? In that case we should be aim higher than £#%&!ing Lingard. We've got Greenwood, Gomes, Chong who have much more potential and time to develop. In 5 years I'd hope at least one is a regular starter and maybe the other two are squad options with more to them than Lingard. Maybe Greenwood has more potential than Rashford and pushes Rashford to the bench. And Rashford now is far more viable than Lingard. |
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You seem to be shifting in your view of what a squad player Is? Is he one now or will he be happy to be one? This is part of the issue. Now, he is more than a squad player and he simply isn't good enough for that. As long as he keeps producing 3 good performances in a row in every 20, score the odd worldie at Stamford bridge, he'll keep shifting our expectation of what is acceptable. Take a step back and look at his overall game and he simply isn't very good. What Are his qualities? Movement off the ball? Mobility? Is that it? He's not quick, he's not skilful and his passing and delivery are limited. He doesn't score enough, provide enough and Do you really every expect him to seriously make the difference in a match? He's average. Bang average. If he's simply back up to somebody much better then fine, but I'll suspect he'll be starting many of our biggest games next season as our main creative hub and we'll be scratching our heads as to why we're so far off a team who have Silva and De Bruyne doing that. Oh, and I don't think he has a particularly good character. It's ok. Bear minimum. Quote:
And a team scratching around for quality is likely to chop and change more. Stats can be misleading. As you are happy to point out when Mourinho started Rashford more than any other player. |
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Him and rashford getting a lot of stick on Twitter - thoroughly deserved in my book. Though there are plenty of precious #@&%!s saying they don’t deserve it and we shouldn’t be abusing the players. Which is part of the reason some of those £#%&!ers are still here when other clubs fans would’ve hounded them out seasons ago.
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How you giving grief to united players for attending the treble reunion.... |
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Ah right, I don't really follow our players being abused online... |
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Lingard comes in for a lot of stick because he just seems a bit of a weapon tbf. The clown act and dressing up like a prize #@&%! is fine when you’re performing. When you’re not, it really starts to grate so it’s no surprise he’s coming in for a lot of flak tbh.
Compare him to Beckham ffs. Yes there was a lot of off the field nonsense, but he always delivered on the pitch. |
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spot on. |
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