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Unread 15-01-2022, 12:56 AM
Jammy Dodger
 
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it's very telling that you have ignored the meaning of the words "it depends on the tories" in order to make this a stupid conversation. good day
The tories are always right wing and serve capital, unless a social democratic consensus constrains them (which hasnít happened for 40 years).

So, in what way does it depend on the tories? Their ideals never change.

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You live in dreamland
Explain. Everything he said was factual.

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I didn't say they had to be right wing; I said the labour right was their only hope. I know it's too late for you to try actually reading what is in front of you, but still.... the centre ground is what is up for grabs, not extremist stupidity votes.
The labour right today is right wing. Totally subservient to capital. The middle is social democracy, which is what the labour right should be, but arenít. So, you agree they need to move to the left from where they are.

Incidentally, the last manifesto under corbyn was the middle ground of social democracy. Not extremist. It helps if you understand what words mean and what things are.

Though, of course you know. Youíre just bullshitting other people.

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What part of nearly 60 seats and 800,000 votes is a hairsbreadth ? Donít start quoting that bullshit about small majorities in certain seats, it happens at every general election.
2017, not 2019 ffs.

Itís also worth noting that despite everything thrown at him and his labour, including by imposters within the PLP; despite those constant attacks and attempts to demonise, 12 million people still voted for labour in 2019. Just 2 million fewer than the tories. Obvious what would have won in an actual democracy.

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Unread 15-01-2022, 07:24 AM
jem
 
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one might almost say it was pretty clear who won.
 
Unread 15-01-2022, 09:48 AM
no fun
 
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Irrelevant if that c*** Johnson is still in charge at the next election, itís going to be a labour landslide

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-into-politics

 
Unread 15-01-2022, 11:13 AM
Tory Dave
 
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Has it dawned on any of you ABT lads that you are on a forum dedicated to the most Tory team on the planet?
 
Unread 15-01-2022, 11:14 AM
no fun
 
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Has it dawned on any of you ABT lads that you are on a forum dedicated to the most Tory team on the planet?
If you mean they are all absolute ****s then yea
 
Unread 15-01-2022, 11:21 AM
Zorg
 
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If you mean they are all absolute ****s then yea
 
Unread 15-01-2022, 11:28 AM
dunk
 
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Has it dawned on any of you ABT lads that you are on a forum dedicated to the most Tory team on the planet?
And we hate them. Just as we hate you.
 
Unread 15-01-2022, 11:45 AM
The taste of syphillis
 
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Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

2017, not 2019 ffs.

Itís also worth noting that despite everything thrown at him and his labour, including by imposters within the PLP; despite those constant attacks and attempts to demonise, 12 million people still voted for labour in 2019. Just 2 million fewer than the tories. Obvious what would have won in an actual democracy.
Tory ****s as you can see try to airbrush 2017 from history to try and complete the job in full.

Starmer ****s too for that matter as Corbyn fought that election upholding the referendum result. No red wall issue then unlike 2019 after forensic fingers stuck his back stabbing oar in.
 
Unread 15-01-2022, 11:58 AM
Tory Dave
 
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And we hate them. Just as we hate you.
So full of hate and anger. Shame
 
Unread 15-01-2022, 12:29 PM
jem
 
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Starmer ****s too for that matter as Corbyn fought that election upholding the referendum result. No red wall issue then unlike 2019 after forensic fingers stuck his back stabbing oar in.
true dat.
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