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Unread 30-05-2015, 02:57 PM
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it is bizarre that blatter is still getting away with heading the whole fifa money laundering operation

but at the same time he does have a point doesn't he? these charges are timed to coincide with the election just as the last time this all blew up coincided with the election in 2011. and England did lose out to russia, the yanks did lose out to qatar, the nth american federation thingy still voted for blatter, and the yanks did support blather's main rival. and as for the sponsors 'expressing concern'? do me a £#%&!ing favour, they're the main culprits because they bankroll it ffs
No, he really doesn't. If this had have happened ten years ago, there would have been another set of circumstances he would have cited as hypocrisy, similarly if it had happened ten years from now. Notice while he is swinging his tar brush in very broad strokes, the one thing he is not saying is that his organization, HIS organization, is clean and the accusations are false. For merely presiding over this rat infested shit pile alone he should not have been considered for re-election, even if he himself is clean as a whistle, which he is clearly not.

It's all sleight of hand. Don't look here, look over there. And while everyone is too willing to give the Imperialists shit for hypocrisy, let's not examine too closely the motives of the African nations, who despite witnessing this holocaust of an organization implode, still voted for it's führer to continue his good work. Wonder why?
 
Unread 30-05-2015, 03:45 PM
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worth a read

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/socc...-all-1.2231508

... " The Fifa president is the nominal head of a sprawling federation of 209 member associations. Each association reflects the political and institutional culture of the country it comes from. In countries where corruption oils the wheels of commerce and politics – which is to say, most countries – is it reasonable to expect football associations to be exemplars of correct corporate ethics?

Blatter doesn’t think so. His attitude is: since Fifa is so big, there’s no point in the president being a control freak. His reign has been founded on a simple pact with a majority of the associations. To each of them, he doles out a few million dollars a year from the central coffers. He doesn’t need to see the receipts. All he asks in return is that they remember him at election time."...
 
Unread 30-05-2015, 06:20 PM
MrBishi
 
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Originally Posted by Semantic Lisp
it is bizarre that blatter is still getting away with heading the whole fifa money laundering operation

but at the same time he does have a point doesn't he? these charges are timed to coincide with the election just as the last time this all blew up coincided with the election in 2011. and England did lose out to russia, the yanks did lose out to qatar, the nth american federation thingy still voted for blatter, and the yanks did support blather's main rival. and as for the sponsors 'expressing concern'? do me a £#%&!ing favour, they're the main culprits because they bankroll it ffs
These charges are timed to coincide with the election because that's when everyone was in the same country.
 
Unread 30-05-2015, 06:42 PM
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If you deal with anyone from any country outside of Northern Europe or North America, then you'll very quickly see how different their cultures and accepted business practices are. Nowhere is clean, a 'gift' is expected for just about everything in half the globe. So Blatter has a point, though that's no justification to turn a blind eye.

There are serious safety issues when bribes are used to win contracts for construction, where there's a direct link with deaths. (Qatar, anyone?)

Unfortunately for Blatter and everyone else in FIFA, the US take corruption very seriously (US companies enforce business conduct training for overseas deals) and the links for involvement to anything within the US don't need to be too strong, just an office there will do.
 
Unread 30-05-2015, 07:00 PM
Charlestown Rouge
 
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If you deal with anyone from any country outside of Northern Europe or North America, then you'll very quickly see how different their cultures and accepted business practices are. Nowhere is clean, a 'gift' is expected for just about everything in half the globe. So Blatter has a point, though that's no justification to turn a blind eye.

There are serious safety issues when bribes are used to win contracts for construction, where there's a direct link with deaths. (Qatar, anyone?)

Unfortunately for Blatter and everyone else in FIFA, the US take corruption very seriously (US companies enforce business conduct training for overseas deals) and the links for involvement to anything within the US don't need to be too strong, just an office there will do.
Harsh on Australia and New Zealand and a load of other places as well.
 
Unread 30-05-2015, 10:29 PM
utd99
 
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If you deal with anyone from any country outside of Northern Europe or North America, then you'll very quickly see how different their cultures and accepted business practices are. Nowhere is clean, a 'gift' is expected for just about everything in half the globe. So Blatter has a point, though that's no justification to turn a blind eye.

There are serious safety issues when bribes are used to win contracts for construction, where there's a direct link with deaths. (Qatar, anyone?)

Unfortunately for Blatter and everyone else in FIFA, the US take corruption very seriously (US companies enforce business conduct training for overseas deals) and the links for involvement to anything within the US don't need to be too strong, just an office there will do.
Correct, which begs the question, why have the EU never done anything about this? Every £#%&!er on the planet knows FIFA is rotten to the core, and all UEFA do is moan about it, so why did it even take the seppo's?
 
Unread 30-05-2015, 10:35 PM
HERTS_RED
 
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Correct, which begs the question, why have the EU never done anything about this? Every £#%&!er on the planet knows FIFA is rotten to the core, and all UEFA do is moan about it, so why did it even take the seppo's?
Because they're (allegedly) independent of nations, if for e.g. the whole thing falls down who decides where the next world cup goes, it will be a never ending circle of allegations of favouritiism

If it goes the way it currently is it will be the FBI World Cup
 
Unread 30-05-2015, 10:39 PM
utd99
 
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Because they're (allegedly) independent of nations, if for e.g. the whole thing falls down who decides where the next world cup goes, it will be a never ending circle of allegations of favouritiism

If it goes the way it currently is it will be the FBI World Cup
So then who is equipped and qualified to prosecute an organization as corrupt and widespread as FIFA? Is it really only the Americans in the whole world that can do something about this?
 
Unread 31-05-2015, 11:10 AM
signed dc
 
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Interesting read (apologies for linking to the Daily Mail)

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/a...orruption.html
 
Unread 31-05-2015, 12:41 PM
Denis Irwell
 
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Harsh on Australia and New Zealand and a load of other places as well.

Don't know about NZ but it's £#%&!ing rife here in oz
 
Unread 31-05-2015, 12:42 PM
Charlestown Rouge
 
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Don't know about NZ but it's £#%&!ing rife here in oz
No more "rife" than the UK I guess.
 
Unread 31-05-2015, 01:06 PM
Denis Irwell
 
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Bad guess
 
Unread 31-05-2015, 01:07 PM
Charlestown Rouge
 
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Bad guess
Gone bush have you?
 
Unread 31-05-2015, 01:16 PM
Semantic Lisp
 
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No, he really doesn't. If this had have happened ten years ago, there would have been another set of circumstances he would have cited as hypocrisy, similarly if it had happened ten years from now. Notice while he is swinging his tar brush in very broad strokes, the one thing he is not saying is that his organization, HIS organization, is clean and the accusations are false. For merely presiding over this rat infested shit pile alone he should not have been considered for re-election, even if he himself is clean as a whistle, which he is clearly not.

It's all sleight of hand. Don't look here, look over there. And while everyone is too willing to give the Imperialists shit for hypocrisy, let's not examine too closely the motives of the African nations, who despite witnessing this holocaust of an organization implode, still voted for it's führer to continue his good work. Wonder why?
he's getting shit off the man because 'we' want our @#%&! in charge and he's not our @#%&!...
 
Unread 31-05-2015, 05:46 PM
Fat Al
 
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Apparently, Blatter is just the poor innocent victim of an evil conspiracy.


Well, according to a totally unbiased source.
His daughter.

 
Unread 31-05-2015, 06:08 PM
utd99
 
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he's getting shit off the man because 'we' want our @#%&! in charge and he's not our @#%&!...
Hmmmmmm, maybe. Or possibly he's getting shit because he's a corrupt old @#%&! sitting atop a huge pile of other corrupt @#%&!s. Maybe.
 
Unread 31-05-2015, 07:05 PM
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Hmmmmmm, maybe. Or possibly he's getting shit because he's a corrupt old @#%&! sitting atop a huge pile of other corrupt @#%&!s. Maybe.
You do realise that every @#%&! is a corrupt @#%&!, right? Every part of the whole £#%&!ing system is run by the same type of animal, whether it's at FIFA HQ, Canary Wharf or Wall Street.

Corporations like Visa and Coca Cola are apparently threatening to pull out of FIFA sponsorship, but who the £#%&! runs these organisations? Do you think the CEO of Coke is a gallant paragon of virtue? Do you think the people that run Sony aren't self-serving thunder@#%&!s?

It's dog eat dog, and the reason FIFA and Blatter have done the things they've done is because every other @#%&! is doing the exact same thing. The Americans haven't got their way, so are now taking action, but it's a bit like Billy the Kid bringing Jesse James into the sheriff's office in handcuffs. Absolutely laughable how the Blatter election win was the main story on the BBC and Sky over the weekend, yet the publishing of the names of 800 UK-born, tax-evading non-doms has barely seen an ounce of coverage.
 
Unread 01-06-2015, 10:45 AM
Zorg
 
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10288184.html

The UEFA Global Cup. Or something
 
Unread 01-06-2015, 10:58 AM
teflon_terry
 
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YCNMIU.


http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/01/fo...html?sr=cnnitw
 
Unread 01-06-2015, 11:08 AM
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UKIP Cup. England, Cornwall, Ireland, N.Ireland, Wales, Scotland, Poland.

Each team to play each other 4 times. Poland to clear up imo
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