Glazers refinance the debt - again

Originally Posted by Semantic Lisp

The idea of being delighted that United are now throwing whatever money it takes at anything that moves, especially against a backdrop of working people being marginalised ever more by ideological austerity in the real world, shows how far away from its traditional core support the club has moved.

Er, this is Fred Tissue pal. I hardly think a collection of lawyers, bankers, doctors, essex playboy millionaires, jet setting home-counties middle class financiers are going to be worried about that.

There isn't a working class person on this forum.

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

I'm beginning to doubt ferguson's footballing judgement.

only now?

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Er, this is Fred Tissue pal. I hardly think a collection of lawyers, bankers, doctors, essex playboy millionaires, jet setting home-counties middle class financiers are going to be worried about that.

There isn't a working class person on this forum.

I can name at least one.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Er, this is Fred Tissue pal. I hardly think a collection of lawyers, bankers, doctors, essex playboy millionaires, jet setting home-counties middle class financiers are going to be worried about that.

Speak for yourself, I don't fit into any of those groups. Nor do you, come to that.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Speak for yourself, I don't fit into any of those groups. Nor do you, come to that.

im working class. Sparky can £#%&! off tbh.

Originally Posted by Semantic Lisp

I can name at least one.

Throb, I hope you're not talking about me. I've never worked a day in my life.

In all seriousness, the game has changed - as has society as a whole. We don't work down t'pit or in t'mill anymore. The expensive motors in the car park at greyhound races of all places are testament to that.

Yesterday the news reported the average disposable income is £350 a week, £18k a year. But then a bag of chips is frightfully expensive at £1.60.

A few unexpected nibbles for Sparky.

Originally Posted by South Stand Johnny

Throb, I hope you're not talking about me. I've never worked a day in my life.

In all seriousness, the game has changed - as has society as a whole. We don't work down t'pit or in t'mill anymore. The expensive motors in the car park at greyhound races of all places are testament to that.

Yesterday the news reported the average disposable income is £350 a week, £18k a year. But then a bag of chips is frightfully expensive at £1.60.

Originally Posted by teflon_terry

A few unexpected nibbles for Sparky.

i hope you tipped him

£18k a year disposable I presume these average folk are single and living with their parents

Originally Posted by bigMikeA

£18k a year disposable I presume these average folk are single and living with their parents

:shakehead: Johnny is a complete mug.

Originally Posted by South Stand Johnny

Didn't they buy the PIKs in the 2009 crisis for a fraction of their original value (something like £100M on £200M), then paid that off when they floated?

whoosh

Originally Posted by kid napper

Yeah cos in 1989 that wasn't happening was it? We spent nearly 10m in the 89/90 summer. That was a huge outlay and comparable to what was spent last summer.
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Originally Posted by jem

only now?

It's not his football judgement that I ever doubted. But if others care to say some of his decisions about the team weren't down to the influence of the debt, or certain other financial incentives, then they're the ones saying his football judgement was hopeless.

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

It's not his football judgement that I ever doubted. But if others care to say some of his decisions about the team weren't down to the influence of the debt, or certain other financial incentives, then they're the ones saying his football judgement was hopeless.

his mistakes pale into insignificance in the big picture of his unprecedented success.

as I've pointed out, his transfer policy, so oft criticised, was usually pretty consistent but could also appear surprisingly scattergun, particularly at times when he needed fresh blood but couldn't get his main targets.

also needs bearing in mind that his biggest mistakes incoming were arguably two of his 3 most expensive signings, one before glazer and one after, whilst his biggest mistake outgoing was stam, at the time iirc also a record transfer fee.

in a few years we'll have a clearer picture of how good woodward and LVG are at spending money. they already seem to me to have pretty much wasted as much as ferguson did, despite what martin edwards used to say about fergie with money.

I sense a veron reference.

don't make me come down there again.

Originally Posted by Semantic Lisp

in a few years we'll have a clearer picture of how good woodward and LVG are at spending money. they already seem to me to have pretty much wasted as much as ferguson did

Originally Posted by waynes ear's

dick

Originally Posted by atticusgrinch

dick

who?

Originally Posted by waynes ear's

who?

You. A big fat one.