10 Hag should be sacked tonight

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

No that's simply not possible. You must want eth sacked or you're a wum. Can't have nuance or polarising opinions while big ron is around!

Not WUM, troll.

Hth.

Originally Posted by Zorg

The sad thing is this one looked like working at one point - no, I'm not trying to claim a league cup as if it's like winning the league, but it was a great start for him, that and reaching the FA Cup Final, and of course qualifying for the champions league. I honestly thought we were back up and running, without getting carried away.

It's baffling how utterly shit it's all turned out.

The 7-0 at Anfield cannot be underestimated.

It was a sackable offence despite the good work being done up to that point.

The club hasn’t recovered properly since, a proper humiliation that was and exposed the side massively.

That’s the bit I don’t get, do we keep him for another five years letting him spend 200 million a year on players he wants but then turn out to be a bit shit or unable to play his “system” just to battle for 4th every season and win the odd cup just because we don’t like the other options?

We all thought the other options were right until they weren’t, it’s generally what happens at most clubs around the world. It also seems to me that the longer we keep him the bigger the mess he’ll leave for the next man to clean up.

Originally Posted by believe

That’s the bit I don’t get, do we keep him for another five years letting him spend 200 million a year on players he wants but then turn out to be a bit shit or unable to play his “system” just to battle for 4th every season and win the odd cup just because we don’t like the other options?

We all thought the other options were right until they weren’t, it’s generally what happens at most clubs around the world. It also seems to me that the longer we keep him the bigger the mess he’ll leave for the next man to clean up.

We didn't ? Moyes FFS

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

We didn't ? Moyes FFS

We all wanted it to be right and the club told us it was the right decision until it wasn’t. He lasted less than a year

Originally Posted by NedKelly

6.5/10 first season = winning silverware, reaching finals, playing some of the best football we’ve played in over a decade? I’ve read it all now.

Can anyone give just one genuine reason as to why they want Erik Ten Hag sacked?

Originally Posted by NedKelly

In no way am I actually saying this season has been a success or that I’ve enjoyed the football. I haven’t, but people just ignore the above two points and carry on with this idea that everyone who disagrees with them is a wum.

you are clearly on a wind up.

the two reasons you give for keeping ETH are both very valid and I agree with them. but neither of them are based on ETHs own credentials for the job.

Originally Posted by believe

We all wanted it to be right and the club told us it was the right decision until it wasn’t. He lasted less than a year

We reacted with absolute shock and horror when we first heard the decision.

Originally Posted by NedKelly

I genuinely don’t think he should be sacked for two reasons;

1) The names being thrown around as his potential successor do absolutely nothing to make me think ‘Yeah, this guy would do a good job here!” In fact they just make me think we’ll be here in a year or two having the exact same arguments and discussions on here.

2) We’ve gone through this cycle multiple times since Ferguson left and it’s got us nowhere. I thought LVG deserved more time, and to be honest, despite disliking Mourinho, he deserved to see things through for another season. Everything he called out about certain players, and the structure at the club, is exactly the same as what we say on here. Ole? I’m not convinced he had what it took, as he veered too much into yes man territory (imo).

In no way am I actually saying this season has been a success or that I’ve enjoyed the football. I haven’t, but people just ignore the above two points and carry on with this idea that everyone who disagrees with them is a wum.

I won’t bother discussing this further, as I’m expecting the usual replies and it’s pointless engaging with them.

Thanks.

This is where I’m with it as well

Originally Posted by pedr0

you are clearly on a wind up.

the two reasons you give for keeping ETH are both very valid and I agree with them. but neither of them are based on ETHs own credentials for the job.

“This season”

Originally Posted by NedKelly

I genuinely don’t think he should be sacked for two reasons;

1) The names being thrown around as his potential successor do absolutely nothing to make me think ‘Yeah, this guy would do a good job here!” In fact they just make me think we’ll be here in a year or two having the exact same arguments and discussions on here.

2) We’ve gone through this cycle multiple times since Ferguson left and it’s got us nowhere. I thought LVG deserved more time, and to be honest, despite disliking Mourinho, he deserved to see things through for another season. Everything he called out about certain players, and the structure at the club, is exactly the same as what we say on here. Ole? I’m not convinced he had what it took, as he veered too much into yes man territory (imo).

In no way am I actually saying this season has been a success or that I’ve enjoyed the football. I haven’t, but people just ignore the above two points and carry on with this idea that everyone who disagrees with them is a wum.

I won’t bother discussing this further, as I’m expecting the usual replies and it’s pointless engaging with them.

Thanks.

Post. The key is not letting the players who think they have power get away with shenanigans.

Originally Posted by Jethro

Post. The key is not letting the players who think they have power get away with shenanigans.

They do have the power.

Originally Posted by tatty

They do have the power.

Then the club needs to ensure that it rests with the grown-ups in the squad, and not the childlike Rashford, Shaw, martial and Sanchos.

Ned is right in what he said. We should have stuck with van Gaal and mourinho longer. When Klopp finally got Liverpool challenging for trophies, he was in his 4th season and had only 2 players that he inherited in his first eleven.

We all know the club is a mess. Has been for more than a decade. And yes, this season has been a nightmare for loads of reasons, all already made on this thread, but I’m still of the view that we need to take a longer view, clear out the injury prone, over the hollers and disruptive children, bring in young replacements by transfer while also continuing to being through the wealth of young talent we have at the club, and we will be fine.

To do otherwise will set us back another couple of years.

Originally Posted by Finport Red

Then the club needs to ensure that it rests with the grown-ups in the squad, and not the childlike Rashford, Shaw, martial and Sanchos.

Ned is right in what he said. We should have stuck with van Gaal and mourinho longer. When Klopp finally got Liverpool challenging for trophies, he was in his 4th season and had only 2 players that he inherited in his first eleven.

We all know the club is a mess. Has been for more than a decade. And yes, this season has been a nightmare for loads of reasons, all already made on this thread, but I’m still of the view that we need to take a longer view, clear out the injury prone, over the hollers and disruptive children, bring in young replacements by transfer while also continuing to being through the wealth of young talent we have at the club, and we will be fine.

To do otherwise will set us back another couple of years.

So will keeping Erik,sorry I can never start to bury that Anfield annihilation until we have a new manager in place

Originally Posted by croady26

So will keeping Erik,sorry I can never start to bury that Anfield annihilation until we have a new manager in place

The players let him down bug time that day. One or two in particular. It was a disaster, but Fergie got hammered 5-1 by a mediocre city team away, and 6-2 by a better one at home, and we managed to come back from it.

With an injury ravaged team this season, we’ve drawn with the scouse away, best them in the cup, and would have won against them at Old Trafford, had we not been cheated out of it by the officials.

Originally Posted by Parlabane

This is where I’m with it as well

I was at one point but not now. The argument - the alternatives are no better and we've done it before and it doesn't work - are a a bit too straw man for me. ETH needs to be judged on what he's done and not on what could/couldn't happen if he is fired.

The level of football we are seeing now - injuries or not - as well the in-game management just can't be excused. Don't see how we can go into next season like this and expect it to get better.

Like everyone I'd like some stability so I'd have no problem being proven wrong, but I feel we've already crossed the Rubicon on this.

Originally Posted by Finport Red

With an injury ravaged team this season, we’ve drawn with the scouse away, best them in the cup, and would have won against them at Old Trafford, had we not been cheated out of it by the officials.

wow we drew with Liverpool away? What an accomplishment just wow!

the ETH gang are embarrassing.

It’s not the injuries that have made this season an embarrassment. It’s the poor game management, the lack of coaching etc
We are outplayed and beaten by teams with inferior players to the teams we actually put out. This negates the injuries issue

I genuinely think Tuchel could be a good fit for INEOS as they will allow him to just coach,although people have valid concerns about his results in league games.

Look if it doesn't work out with him or whoever is the next manager at least we will have a proper structure in place. Hopefully get rid of these only sack when can’t qualify for Champions League clauses.

Originally Posted by marlo

wow we drew with Liverpool away? What an accomplishment just wow!

the ETH gang are embarrassing.

It’s not the injuries that have made this season an embarrassment. It’s the poor game management, the lack of coaching etc
We are outplayed and beaten by teams with inferior players to the teams we actually put out. This negates the injuries issue

I get it. Context isn’t your thing.

Nobody said it was some amazing accomplishment. I used it, along with the other two games, which you weren’t able to add to your brain thinkings at the same time as the draw thought, show his progress against them only.

Now stop following me around the forum and making me want to do a cry.

Originally Posted by Finport Red

I get it. Context isn’t your thing.

Nobody said it was some amazing accomplishment. I used it, along with the other two games, which you weren’t able to add to your brain thinkings at the same time as the draw thought, show his progress against them only.

Now stop following me around the forum and making me want to do a cry.

Stay strong brother, there's more of us than you think....

#TheQuieterMajority

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Stay strong brother, theres more of us out there....

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

No that's simply not possible. You must want eth sacked or you're a wum. Can't have nuance or polarising opinions while big ron is around!

Originally Posted by Parlabane

This is where I’m with it as well

Originally Posted by Jethro

Post. The key is not letting the players who think they have power get away with shenanigans.

Originally Posted by Finport Red

Then the club needs to ensure that it rests with the grown-ups in the squad, and not the childlike Rashford, Shaw, martial and Sanchos.

Ned is right in what he said. We should have stuck with van Gaal and mourinho longer. When Klopp finally got Liverpool challenging for trophies, he was in his 4th season and had only 2 players that he inherited in his first eleven.

We all know the club is a mess. Has been for more than a decade. And yes, this season has been a nightmare for loads of reasons, all already made on this thread, but I’m still of the view that we need to take a longer view, clear out the injury prone, over the hollers and disruptive children, bring in young replacements by transfer while also continuing to being through the wealth of young talent we have at the club, and we will be fine.

To do otherwise will set us back another couple of years.

Originally Posted by Finport Red

The players let him down bug time that day. One or two in particular. It was a disaster, but Fergie got hammered 5-1 by a mediocre city team away, and 6-2 by a better one at home, and we managed to come back from it.

With an injury ravaged team this season, we’ve drawn with the scouse away, best them in the cup, and would have won against them at Old Trafford, had we not been cheated out of it by the officials.

Originally Posted by Finport Red

I get it. Context isn’t your thing.

Nobody said it was some amazing accomplishment. I used it, along with the other two games, which you weren’t able to add to your brain thinkings at the same time as the draw thought, show his progress against them only.

Now stop following me around the forum and making me want to do a cry.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Stay strong brother, there's more of us than you think....

#TheQuieterMajority