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Unread 23-05-2011, 02:02 PM
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Unread 23-05-2011, 02:13 PM
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It was beneath Wembley's old Twin Towers that FC Barcelona and Manchester United FC both won their first European Champion Clubs' Cup but only one can claim a fourth title when these rivals meet at the new Wembley in a repeat of the 2009 UEFA Champions League final.

Previous meetings
• This is the clubs' 11th meeting and the record so far is three wins each and four draws; neither side has won consecutive games. The teams have contested two major finals, Barcelona prevailing in their last meeting in Rome in 2009 while United won their 1991 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup decider in Rotterdam.
• Samuel Eto'o (10) and Lionel Messi (70) scored when Barcelona beat United 2-0 at the Stadio Olimpico on 27 May 2009.
• The full lineups were:
Barcelona: Valdés, Puyol, Touré, Piqué, Sylvinho, Xavi, Busquets, Iniesta (Pedro 90), Messi, Eto'o, Henry (Keita 72).
Man United: Van der Sar, O'Shea, Ferdinand, Vidić, Evra, Park (Berbatov 66), Anderson (Tévez 46), Carrick, Giggs (Scholes 75), Ronaldo, Rooney.
• Sir Alex Ferguson won his first European honour at United with a 2-1 win against Barcelona in the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup final 20 years ago. Former Azulgrana striker Mark Hughes scored twice (67, 74) before Ronald Koeman struck (79) for a Barcelona side reduced to ten men by Nando's dismissal.
• The lineups for that final on 15 May 1991 were:
Barcelona: Busquets, Nando, Alexanco (Pinilla 72), Koeman, Ferrer, Goicoechea, Bakero, Eusebio, Beguiristain, Laudrup, Julio Salinas.
Man United: Sealey, Irwin, Bruce, Pallister, Blackmore, Phelan, Robson, Ince, Sharpe, McClair, Hughes.
• Carlos Busquets, father of Barcelona's Sergio, was in goal for the Catalan club. Brian McClair and Mike Phelan – United's academy director and assistant manager respectively – were among the opposition.
• That was the second time Sir Alex had won the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup against Spanish opponents, his Aberdeen FC side having defeated Real Madrid CF 2-1 in 1983.
• Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes struck in United's 3-3 group stage draw against Barcelona at Old Trafford in September 1998. Scholes, who got the only goal of the teams' 2008 semi-final, made his UEFA Champions League debut against Barcelona in a 2-2 draw in October 1994. Giggs and Josep Guardiola also appeared in the teams' 1994/95 group stage meetings.

Match background
• Barcelona and United are both seeking a fourth European Cup, which would take them level with AFC Ajax and FC Bayern München and behind only Liverpool FC (five wins), AC Milan (seven) and Real Madrid (nine).
• Barcelona's final record is W3 L3:
1960/61 SL Benfica 2-3
1985/86 FC Steaua Bucureşti 0-0 (0-2 pens)
1991/92 UC Sampdoria 1-0 (aet)
1993/94 AC Milan 0-4
2005/06 Arsenal FC 2-1
2008/09 Manchester United FC 2-0
• United's final record is W3 L1:
1967/68 SL Benfica 4-1 (aet)
1998/99 FC Bayern München 2-1
2007/08 Chelsea FC 1-1 (6-5 pens)
2008/09 FC Barcelona 0-2
• If successful, Sir Alex would join Liverpool's Bob Paisley (1977, 1978, 1981) as the manager with most European Cup victories.
• The old Wembley staged five European Cup finals, with English teams prevailing twice:
1963 AC Milan 2-1 SL Benfica
1968 Manchester United FC 4-1 SL Benfica (aet)
1971 AFC Ajax 2-0 Panathinaikos FC
1978 Liverpool FC 1-0 Club Brugge KV
1992 FC Barcelona 1-0 Sampdoria UC (aet)
• United director Sir Bobby Charlton scored twice in the 1968 Wembley triumph with which the Old Trafford team became England's first European Cup winners.
• Like United in 1968, Barcelona needed extra time against Sampdoria in 1992 before Koeman's 112th-minute free-kick earned victory in a match featuring a 21-year-old Guardiola. Guardiola was in the Barcelona side beaten in the 1994 final by Milan.
• By steering Barcelona past United in 2009, Guardiola became the sixth man to claim the European Cup as player and coach, following Miguel Muñoz, Giovanni Trapattoni, Johan Cruyff, Carlo Ancelotti and Frank Rijkaard. The Spaniard was seven when a 36-year-old Sir Alex embarked on his first European campaign as a manager with Aberdeen in 1978/79.
• The only European Cup-winning coach older than Sir Alex is on the day of the final (69 years and 148 days) was Belgian Raymond Goethals, who was 71 years and 232 days when his Olympique de Marseille team triumphed in 1993.
• United have played nine times at the new Wembley and five of their matches have gone to penalties:
2007 FA Cup final: Chelsea FC 0-1
2007 FA Community Shield: Chelsea FC 1-1 (3-0 pens)
2008 FA Community Shield: Portsmouth FC 0-0 (3-1 pens)
2009 League Cup final: Tottenham Hotspur FC 0-0 (4-1 pens)
2009 FA Cup semi-final: Everton FC 0-0 (2-4 pens)
2009 FA Community Shield: Chelsea FC 2-2 (1-4 pens)
2010 League Cup final: Aston Villa FC 2-1
2010 FA Community Shield: Chelsea FC 3-1
2011 FA Cup semi-final: Manchester City FC 0-1
• This is the 11th European Cup final involving a team playing in their home country and seven times the 'home' team have prevailed – Real Madrid (1957), Milan (1965), Manchester United (1968), Ajax (1972), Liverpool (1978), Juventus (1996) and Borussia Dortmund (1997). Stade de Reims (1956), AS Roma (1984) and Barcelona (1986) all lost a final on home soil.
• Barcelona lost 2-1 at Arsenal on their last visit to London in February. They did beat the Gunners 4-2 at Wembley in the 1999/2000 group stage, the only previous time they have faced English opponents at the national stadium.
• Barcelona's record away to English opposition is W6 D8 L13. Their record against English clubs in London is W2 D3 L4; their overall record against English clubs is W23 D18 L16.
• Since the 2009 final United's only meetings with Spanish opposition have come this season, a 1-0 away win and 1-1 home draw with Valencia CF. United's overall record against Spanish clubs is W11 D17 L12.
• There have been 15 previous Anglo-Spanish finals in UEFA competition:
2010 UEFA Europa League: Club Atlético de Madrid 2-1 Fulham FC
2009 UEFA Champions League: FC Barcelona 2-0 Manchester United FC
2006 UEFA Champions League: FC Barcelona 2-1 Arsenal FC
2006 UEFA Cup: Sevilla FC 4-0 Middlesbrough FC
2001 UEFA Cup: Liverpool FC 5-4 Deportivo Alavés (aet)
1998 UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid CF 1-0 Chelsea FC
1995 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: Real Zaragoza 2-1 Arsenal FC (aet)
1991 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: Manchester United FC 2-1 FC Barcelona
1982 UEFA Super Cup: Aston Villa FC 3-1 FC Barcelona (agg)
1981 European Cup: Liverpool FC 1-0 Real Madrid CF
1980 UEFA Super Cup: Valencia CF 2-2 Nottingham Forest FC (agg, Valencia win on away goals)
1980 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: Valencia CF 0-0 Arsenal FC (5-4 pens)
1979 UEFA Super Cup: Nottingham Forest FC 2-1 FC Barcelona (agg)
1971 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: Chelsea FC 2-1 Real Madrid CF (replay after 1-1 draw)
1963 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: Tottenham Hotspur FC 5-1 Club Atlético de Madrid

Team ties

• Gerard Piqué joined United in 2004 after seven years in Barcelona's youth ranks. He made 23 appearances, scoring twice, before rejoining Barça in 2008.
• Messi had not scored in ten UEFA Champions League games against English opponents before striking in the 2009 final.
• Edwin van der Sar is hoping for a third UEFA Champions League winners' medal on his final United appearance, 16 years after his first with Ajax in 1995. Paolo Maldini holds the record for the longest span between triumphs, in 1989 and 2007.
• Víctor Valdés and Carles Puyol started Barcelona's 2006 final win against Arsenal while Andrés Iniesta came on at half-time.
• Giggs is the only survivor of United's 1999 UEFA Champions League final-winning team.
• Patrice Evra tasted UEFA Champions League final defeat with AS Monaco FC in 2004, and Dimitar Berbatov suffered the same fate as a substitute with Bayer 04 Leverkusen against Real Madrid in 2002.
• Barcelona's shoot-out record in UEFA club competitions is:
5-4 v Lech Poznán, 1988/89 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup second round
0-2 v FC Steaua Bucureşti, 1985/86 European Cup final
5-4 v IFK Göteborg, 1985/86 European Cup semi-final
4-1 v RSC Anderlecht, 1978/79 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup second round
3-1 v Ipswich Town FC, 1977/78 UEFA Cup third round
5-4 v AZ Alkmaar, 1977/78 UEFA Cup second round
• United's record is:
6-5 v Chelsea FC, 2007/08 UEFA Champions League final
3-4 v FC Torpedo Moskva, 1992/93 UEFA Cup first round
4-5 v FC Fehérvár, 1984/85 UEFA Cup quarter-finals


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Unread 23-05-2011, 02:25 PM
Jack Duckworth
 
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in 2007 i went to old trafford to watch us pick up our premier league trophy. A week later we had a cup final, which we lost.

In 2009 i went to old trafford to watch us pick up our premier league trophy. A week later we had a cup final, which we lost.

Yesterday, I went to old trafford to watch us pick up our premier league trophy...someONE died.
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Unread 23-05-2011, 02:26 PM
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Unread 23-05-2011, 02:30 PM
Harri Jaffa
 
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Unread 23-05-2011, 02:32 PM
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in 2007 i went to old trafford to watch us pick up our premier league trophy. A week later we had a cup final, which we lost.

In 2009 i went to old trafford to watch us pick up our premier league trophy. A week later we had a cup final, which we lost.

Yesterday, I went to old trafford to watch us pick up our premier league trophy...
you should of said, i live 2miles from the ground, you could of come to my house with your 360 and had a LAN party.
 
Unread 23-05-2011, 04:32 PM
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Messi: "Eruption volcano? We'll see what happens, the coach will decide when and how we'll travel."

Messi: "Rome final? It's a nice memory but it's behind us now, this will be a totally different game."

Messi: "Some say this Man United isn't that strong this year? They won the league, are in the final, think that says enough."

Messi: "In a final there are no favourites, both teams can win, details often decide."

Messi: "1992 final? I was 5 years old, don't remember anything from that day."

Messi: "I always think we're gonna win. I believe in the team, the other players. If we do what we can, we can win."

Messi: "I don't know how Man United will play, but we will play as we always do and will try to have the ball as much as possible."

Messi: "Chicharito? He's very fast, uses both feet well and is a very intelligent striker
 
Unread 23-05-2011, 04:35 PM
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Love Messi, such a boring bastard, never says anything controversial.
 
Unread 23-05-2011, 04:46 PM
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We will lose. They don't give away the ball, evra will be murdered and their three in midfield will ghost about our two in midfield all day. Only hope is Hernandez hanging off the back of their high line but judging by his form lately he's likely to shin it out for throwins etc. Might aswel face it now.
I like your fighting style.
 
Unread 23-05-2011, 05:03 PM
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Unread 23-05-2011, 05:05 PM
Sloane
 
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Guardiola: "Volcano eruption? We'll see what the authorities say. If needed, we can travel tomorrow or on Wednesday."

Guardiola: "We watched the 2009 final again and Manchester United was a lot better than us in the first half."

Guardiola: "Manchester United are one of the great teams of the last 10-15 years, it's an honour to play against them."

Guardiola: "You never know but I think we'll see a good final. The problem in the final can be that the team have fear to lose."

Guardiola: "Man United can both put a lot of pressure high on the pitch, or draw back and defend well in their own area."

Guardiola: "Why more than a club? Because it's not just football, it's cultural, it's history, fight for freedom, for rights."

Guardiola: "The inner will of the players is crucial to win the Champions League, being able to give that bit of extra."

Guardiola: "I don't agree this is a weaker Man United. If you see the squad, all those quality players, what more do you want?"

Guardiola: "If you can be around for so long, win so many trophies, it's clear Ferguson is one of the great coaches in history."

Guardiola: "Playing in England, close to home, might be an advantage for United. But for us, it's a joy to play a final in England"

Guardiola: "You should see if the opponents allows it, but as always our plan is to attack."

Guardiola: "If Gerard doesn't get to that ball faster than Park in the 2009 final, it's 1-0 for them and the game can change."

Guardiola: "Chicharito is a star, he moves very well, he has been the big surprise. We'll see if he plays together with Rooney."

Guardiola: "I already have the base, but there are still some doubts left about the line-up for the final."
 
Unread 23-05-2011, 05:14 PM
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Guardiola: "Why more than a club? Because it's not just football, it's cultural, it's history, fight for freedom, for rights."
Can't stand that shite.
 
Unread 23-05-2011, 05:16 PM
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Guardiola: "Volcano eruption? We'll see what the authorities say. If needed, we can travel tomorrow or on Wednesday."

Guardiola: "We watched the 2009 final again and Manchester United was a lot better than us in the first half."

Guardiola: "Manchester United are one of the great teams of the last 10-15 years, it's an honour to play against them."

Guardiola: "You never know but I think we'll see a good final. The problem in the final can be that the team have fear to lose."

Guardiola: "Man United can both put a lot of pressure high on the pitch, or draw back and defend well in their own area."

Guardiola: "Why more than a club? Because it's not just football, it's cultural, it's history, fight for freedom, for rights."

Guardiola: "The inner will of the players is crucial to win the Champions League, being able to give that bit of extra."

Guardiola: "I don't agree this is a weaker Man United. If you see the squad, all those quality players, what more do you want?... and Giggs has big cojones"

Guardiola: "If you can be around for so long, win so many trophies, it's clear Ferguson is one of the great coaches in history."

Guardiola: "Playing in England, close to home, might be an advantage for United. But for us, it's a joy to play a final in England"

Guardiola: "You should see if the opponents allows it, but as always our plan is to attack."

Guardiola: "If Gerard doesn't get to that ball faster than Park in the 2009 final, it's 1-0 for them and the game can change."

Guardiola: "Chicharito is a star, he moves very well, he has been the big surprise. We'll see if he plays together with Rooney."

Guardiola: "I already have the base, but there are still some doubts left about the line-up for the final."
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Unread 23-05-2011, 05:39 PM
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Can't wait, just want this week to go fast. Bank holiday weekend too.

I'm starting to think about winning it. Which is bad news. I think we have a chance but I'm preparing for them to win...if we win it...what a night it would be.
 
Unread 23-05-2011, 05:42 PM
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i just can't let myself get too excited about it.

the scars from 2009 are still very vivid in my mind.
 
Unread 23-05-2011, 06:04 PM
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Messi: "Eruption volcano? We'll see what happens
 
Unread 23-05-2011, 06:23 PM
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mediteranean women and their taches
 
Unread 23-05-2011, 06:25 PM
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Guardiola: "We watched the 2009 final again and Manchester United was a lot better than us in the first half."


Who are you kidding 'Pep'.
 
Unread 23-05-2011, 07:25 PM
Whip Hubley
 
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starting to get giddy now. we've been spoilt a bit in terms of right up until blackburn the league wasn't settled, so I don't think many were really thinking about Saturday.

Just really hit me today, that we're playing a fantastic Barca side (if a bunch of dirty buggers), at Wembley, potentially for number 4. I've no ticket but as someone above said, if the jib doesn't work then there's always fergie fields with a few other thousand reds



It's not bad following United is it, really? beats standing out in the pissing rain with a few hundred fellow 'fans' cheering a £500m piece of silverware. must be satisfying, that.
 
Unread 23-05-2011, 07:26 PM
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starting to get giddy now. we've been spoilt a bit in terms of right up until blackburn the league wasn't settled, so I don't think many were really thinking about Saturday.

Just really hit me today, that we're playing a fantastic Barca side (if a bunch of dirty buggers), at Wembley, potentially for number 4. I've no ticket but as someone above said, if the jib doesn't work then there's always fergie fields with a few other thousand reds



It's not bad following United is it, really? beats standing out in the pissing rain with a few hundred fellow 'fans' cheering a £500m piece of silverware. must be satisfying, tha
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hope the bus explodes.
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