Manchester United v West Ham : Official Match Thread FA Cup 5th rnd. 9/2/21 7:30pm

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

We won.

exactly.

we can't win at the moment

we grind out a 1-0 in grim conditions against a team set up to smash and grab and everyone piles in

if we'd have lost that, i can't imagine the criticism would have or could have been much worse.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

We're £#%&!ed, then?

No. He is.

Suspect he will be in the next batch ushered out of the club.

Martial is shit....couldn't finish a free hooker, lazy, doesn't move off the ball as the CF and never looks to run in behind

Rashford runs into too many blind alleys on the dribble and looks knackered....hopefully the 5 days rest will do him a bit of good

part of this is because Ole should have given these guys a break in rotation using James and Mata for a few of these matches

Moyes....that is how he made United look during his spell other than the lack of 800 crosses in the box because they didn't try to attack very often. Playing for penalties in the FA Cup? where's the magic in that?

It's going to be a huge test of Ole's managerial skills to navigate the work load of these guys with games in three different competitions over the next month of fixtures

Sun 14 Feb | English Premier League
West Brom vs Man Utd

Thu 18 Feb | UEFA Europa League
Real Sociedad vs Man Utd

Sun 21 Feb | English Premier League
Man Utd vs Newcastle

Thu 25 Feb | UEFA Europa League
Man Utd vs Real Sociedad

Sun 28 Feb | English Premier League
Chelsea vs Man Utd

Sat 06 Mar | English Premier League
Man City vs Man Utd

Sat 13 Mar | English Premier League
Man Utd vs West Ham

Sat 20 Mar | English Premier League
Crystal Palace vs Man Utd

Originally Posted by Vida_15

Martial is shit....couldn't finish a free hooker, lazy, doesn't move off the ball as the CF and never looks to run in behind

Rashford runs into too many blind alleys on the dribble and looks knackered....hopefully the 5 days rest will do him a bit of good

part of this is because Ole should have given these guys a break in rotation using James and Mata for a few of these matches

Moyes....that is how he made United look during his spell other than the lack of 800 crosses in the box because they didn't try to attack very often. Playing for penalties in the FA Cup? where's the magic in that?

It's going to be a huge test of Ole's managerial skills to navigate the work load of these guys with games in three different competitions over the next month of fixtures

Sun 14 Feb | English Premier League
West Brom vs Man Utd

Thu 18 Feb | UEFA Europa League
Real Sociedad vs Man Utd

Sun 21 Feb | English Premier League
Man Utd vs Newcastle

Thu 25 Feb | UEFA Europa League
Man Utd vs Real Sociedad

Sun 28 Feb | English Premier League
Chelsea vs Man Utd

Sat 06 Mar | English Premier League
Man City vs Man Utd

Sat 13 Mar | English Premier League
Man Utd vs West Ham

Sat 20 Mar | English Premier League
Crystal Palace vs Man Utd

I take it there will be EL and FA Cup games to fit into March should we progress? Brutal.

more than likely where you see those week long breaks but they weren't on the fixture list as TBD ....

that's 8 matches in 5 weeks not including FA Cup which we know will be in there and possibly EL.....

i think with what we saw last night from our attacking guys....Ole needs to find somewhere to give these lads a bit of a break and it might just have to be the EL matches

Originally Posted by MUFC One Love

They literally played for penalties. State of Moyes.

Playing for penalties from kick off is always - ALWAYS - a crime against football.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Playing for penalties from kick off is always - ALWAYS - a crime against football.

Bobby Charlton agrees with this

Whilst reffing the Subbuteo World Cup Final in the 1970s he was appalled to find that the Italian team were playing for a nil nil in order to take it to penalties

Absolutely broken by what the Italians had done to the beautiful game by all accounts

Not sure if the above post is serious or taking the proverbial, but I'm certainly old enough to remember Argentina making this their gameplan in the 1990 WC. Still haven't forgiven them.

Originally Posted by dunk

I take it there will be EL and FA Cup games to fit into March should we progress? Brutal.

Fa cup game is 20th March so palace will be re arranged

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Not sure if the above post is serious or taking the proverbial, but I'm certainly old enough to remember Argentina making this their gameplan in the 1990 WC. Still haven't forgiven them.

Might have something to do with the fact their best player was routinely assaulted and they were missing a number of players in the final

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

Might have something to do with the fact their best player was routinely assaulted and they were missing a number of players in the final

As can be attested by Italy and (of fond-ish memory) Yugoslavia, they didn't just do it in the final.

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

Might have something to do with the fact their best player was routinely assaulted and they were missing a number of players in the final

Shame.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Shame.

I would say so yes. The greatest player to play the game denied history by two-bit cowards. No surprise that as an Englishman you abide the cynical violence, you'd still be without a world cup win had they outlawed thuggish cheating.

Maradona won the cup for them in 1986, that was surely enough to mark out his greatness.

No, the competition would have been better if Argentina hadn't produced their one truly good bit of football for the whole event in the last 16 - and thus Brazil had knocked them out.

Soz.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Not sure if the above post is serious or taking the proverbial, but I'm certainly old enough to remember Argentina making this their gameplan in the 1990 WC. Still haven't forgiven them.

100% true . He talks candidly about it on one his old VHS bios

Turned his back on Subbuteo after that and helped form the breakaway Casdon Super League



Incidentally the sons of the Casdon Soccer Empire went on to form one of the early Factory Records bands - Section 25

Worlds within worlds

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

I would say so yes. The greatest player to play the game denied history by two-bit cowards. No surprise that as an Englishman you abide the cynical violence, you'd still be without a world cup win had they outlawed thuggish cheating.

Yes, if there's one thing you can't level at the Argentinians, it's cynical violence and thuggery.

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

I would say so yes. The greatest player to play the game denied history by two-bit cowards. No surprise that as an Englishman you abide the cynical violence, you'd still be without a world cup win had they outlawed thuggish cheating.

alternatively, we'd have won it in 86 and probably retained it in 1990.

Originally Posted by jem

alternatively, we'd have won it in 86 and probably retained it in 1990.

Highly doubtful.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Yes, if there's one thing you can't level at the Argentinians, it's cynical violence and thuggery.

Originally Posted by jem

alternatively, we'd have won it in 86 and probably retained it in 1990.

If Robbo’s shoulder hadn’t popped at West Ham, United and England could easily have both been champions in 86.