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no matter how bad Fred or The Scottish Player play you’d never pick vdb over either of them to hold the midfield...
no matter how bad pogba or Bruno play you’d never need a goal or creativity and want vdb playing instead of either of them.... when he is on the pitch, you literally don’t know where he is or what he is doing. he also can’t run and even attempted a pass over 10 yards... but yeah he’ll come good next season. |
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It's hard to watch... Club need to cut their losses and get rid. One of the strangest signings we have ever made. Wasn't even needed and one of the only times I've seen a side not want to pass to someone in their team whenever he plays... Very odd. |
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I thought it was a good signing. On paper. Hasn't worked out. Can't even see any hints that it might still work out. Reckon some of our U23s would have more impact right now. |
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Think he needs a run at CM to be fair... Bruno is exceptional at finding space and scoring. His passing is largely OK but when he stinks he stinks.
Anyway is DVB going to be worse on the ball than Fred? Give him a run there - he can’t be worse than any of the three who completely ballsed up yesterday against Leicester? Makes you wonder if he was an Ed signing or an Ole signing given the lack of game time. Then again do our tactics and formation get the best out of Mason, Martial, Rashford? |
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Definitely needs a run of games to prove himself, rather than people judging him on cameo sub appearances or games in a non-standard selection. Cannot pass worse than Fred, totally agree. But as a bigger picture, we need to reassess this passing out from the back shite in general. Too much risk for very little, if any, reward. Martial, when played up front, drifts out wide too often. Fine when we've got two strikers but not in our current formation. If he does drift out wide to draw centre-backs, we need other players making a run down a central channel that Martial has cleared for us. Just feels like we have four strikers in Greenwood, Rashford, Martial and Cavani when we only have one striking role. None of them cross a ball particularly well, so some sort of rethink is needed. |
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He seems to love to to slow the play and pass back. Maybe something he was taught using his Ajax days. Doesn’t really show for the ball or attempt to take any risk on.
Granted it was the right decision even in the box he steps over the ball and leaves it for Greenwood. It’s probably a confidence thing that won’t change till next season. He needs to impose himself a bit, however rare it is for him to get mind he needs to show that he wants them bad. Every time you see him play the game goes by him , no heavy intense press or desire to want to show the world what he can do . |
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If we replace Fred with him, our midfield will be completely overrun and we will concede goals for fun. Fred's passing isn't good enough but his work without the ball is outstanding. VDB doesn't have that in him. Not sure we have anyone else in the team who can do what Fred does.
The Scottish Player is probably who he is fighting with to start games. Whilst VDB might possess better vision and passing range (yet to be seen though), he lacks the dynamism, aggression and sheer will to win that The Scottish Player brings. It has been a terrible transfer for everyone so far. Hard to see how it can turn around. |
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Much of our style relies on pace and strength and a high intensity (when we pull it off) . He doesn’t excel in any of those areas. He isn’t quick /strong or an exceptional match winner. Would still give him a pass this season and see how he fits in next . |
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Could do with some input from Bunks if we’re being honest. Knows the lad inside out. |
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I think he was/has been bought with the intention of linking up with Sancho and another dedicated winger. Even better if a decent striker is signed. I think it's unfair to judge him based on the current system and playing staff. Get decent wingers and forwards in then you can play him alongside Bruno and a defensive player and he'll play much better with intelligent forwards and widemen to thread passes through to.
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