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Unread 21-10-2021, 10:15 PM
red in cumbria
 
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Poor kid.

Because of who his dad is, or because he is training with United?
 
Unread 21-10-2021, 10:21 PM
92ToBury
 
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Euros hangover.....

It's November almost...
13 months on and Martial's still recovering from two weeks out. These things take time.
 
Unread 21-10-2021, 10:31 PM
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There can't be many managers who would, under that much pressure and with a team low on confidence (and perhaps fitness), set their team up to play in such an attacking way, never mind persist with it after going 2 down and getting booed [bood?] off by his own supporters at HT.

That took balls. f***ing great to see it, especially after what happened in Gdansk.

Hope to f*** we play more defensively on Sunday, mind.
 
Unread 21-10-2021, 10:38 PM
ZiggyStardust
 
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There can't be many managers who would, under that much pressure and with a team low on confidence (and perhaps fitness), set their team up to play in such an attacking way, never mind persist with it after going 2 down and getting booed [bood?] off by his own supporters at HT.

That took balls. f***ing great to see it, especially after what happened in Gdansk.

Hope to f*** we play more defensively on Sunday, mind.
Were you expecting him go more defensive at 0-2 down
 
Unread 21-10-2021, 10:44 PM
goldfinger II
 
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Were you expecting him go more defensive at 0-2 down
No, but I think plenty would have shit themselves and reverted to a more defensive approach and looked to "nick one" to get back into it.
 
Unread 21-10-2021, 10:55 PM
ZiggyStardust
 
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No, but I think plenty would have shit themselves and reverted to a more defensive approach and looked to "nick one" to get back into it.
Literally canít think of a single manager who would do that in that situation
 
Unread 21-10-2021, 11:26 PM
Baron
 
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How do you honestly start a game without Pogba & Sancho on the pitch? He clearly prioritised Sancho above a central midfielder which is the wrong decision this summer. The club should have taken that decision, the days of one man dictating everything are gone. Klopp & Pep donít ask for one player. They (football directors) determine where the side needs upgrading, sometimes with disgustingly unemotional or aware statistical decisions, other times financially prudent (lol) and others based on simply whether youíre any good (hi Memphis).

The club isnít run well enough to give Ole a chance this early. Comparing apples to apples when looking at Klopp & Pep vs Ole is moot. However, it doesnít absolve him of the things he can control. And, for me, here is the paradox - I think heís doing well in the clubs circumstances but I think heís falling in short of how good you need to be nowadays in managing at the sharpest level in world football - to win the PL & CL regularly. Nope. Might and probably well may win a cup this year but will we win either of those two titles this club strives for with style? Canít say I think so. My honest assessment is we should pop him upstairs to unilaterally support his successor because if we gave him the purse strings and the support of the manager heíd do a f*** load better than what heís received in his tenure.

Ole canít transcend our issues, I think thatís basically what Iím saying. Someone else truly special is required. Couldnít tell you who that is by the way. Klopp & Pep are at our main rivals. Which tells you just how f***ing terrible our club has been at recruiting the right man for the job since Fergie.
 
Unread 22-10-2021, 01:32 AM
Denis Irwell
 
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So, you are privy to the workings of transfer deals and know that Ole demanded the purchase of Sancho, at the expense of a midfielder, from the suits and not the other way around?
On the one hand, Ole is a yes man, who has little input and does as he is told, yet he decided we didnít need a midfielder and needed two major forward signings to reinforce our marketing profile in an area already bloated with options ?


I think you answered your own question.
 
Unread 23-10-2021, 03:59 AM
Stickman
 
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Literally canít think of a single manager who would do that in that situation


Neither.

Lets come back, discreetly....
 
Unread 23-10-2021, 10:00 AM
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How do you honestly start a game without Pogba & Sancho on the pitch? He clearly prioritised Sancho above a central midfielder which is the wrong decision this summer. The club should have taken that decision, the days of one man dictating everything are gone. Klopp & Pep donít ask for one player. They (football directors) determine where the side needs upgrading, sometimes with disgustingly unemotional or aware statistical decisions, other times financially prudent (lol) and others based on simply whether youíre any good (hi Memphis).

The club isnít run well enough to give Ole a chance this early. Comparing apples to apples when looking at Klopp & Pep vs Ole is moot. However, it doesnít absolve him of the things he can control. And, for me, here is the paradox - I think heís doing well in the clubs circumstances but I think heís falling in short of how good you need to be nowadays in managing at the sharpest level in world football - to win the PL & CL regularly. Nope. Might and probably well may win a cup this year but will we win either of those two titles this club strives for with style? Canít say I think so. My honest assessment is we should pop him upstairs to unilaterally support his successor because if we gave him the purse strings and the support of the manager heíd do a f*** load better than what heís received in his tenure.

Ole canít transcend our issues, I think thatís basically what Iím saying. Someone else truly special is required. Couldnít tell you who that is by the way. Klopp & Pep are at our main rivals. Which tells you just how f***ing terrible our club has been at recruiting the right man for the job since Fergie.
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