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The fact that none of them can get us playing any semblance of decent football is however nonetheless alarming. We are just a poor team to watch and have been for a good number of years. Been some £#%&!ing brutal football under all three on a regular basis. I honestly dont know what we spend our time doing in training sessions. We always look like a team just thrown together. No decent patterns of play and cant even defend set pieces |
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Not many managers that are free even though things went swimmingly where they were though. Basically we're £#%&!ed aren't we. The best two managers in the world will never manage us. Nobody else is up to much. |
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Ole with his couple of seasons at Molde would never be on any list of United managers if he wasn’t who he is. We’d laugh our balls off at the suggestion of hiring someone with that amount of experience. He was the right man to come on and look after things for a couple of months until we found a real manager, but that’s it. At first I was saying let’s see what happens. Wouldn’t it be amazing if we could turn it around with Ole in charge? But increasingly I’m just not seeing that progress that Ole and some on here are seeing. It’s all very well being positive about losing to Liverpool “with the squad we’ve got”, but are we really saying our squad is worse that Watford, Palace, Everton or Bournemouth? Those embarrassments are as much on the management as they are on the owners. At some point we’ll need to bin nostalgia and sentimentality and judge ole entirely on outcomes. And I can’t see that having a happy ending for him. |
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a shit builder can get all the latest tools he wants he will still be a shit builder.
this is the next stage of this ole experiment... do you actually think he knows how to set up a team, a plan b, an instant tactic change to solve a deficiency that has appeared during a game. look at his subs for £#%&!s sake. 63' if drawing - poorest player on the pitch in midfield off for periera or lingard if losing - double sub periera/lingard + mata 77' - 81' Greenwood for James |
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It's not as black and white as give them no time or a full three years. Personally, I wouldn't sack him yet as I really don't see any benefit to doing so and he has nowhere near enough of his own players at the club to make a call like that at this point.... but I also don't think much has happened in the pitch to suggest progress. My biggest concern is that we don't look like we know what we're doing on the pitch. Apart from counter attacking teams that attack us (which most of the league wont) we have no clue what to do. We should know that a year in. The subs?... meh. What else can he do? There's so few options? We can say change the system, but he does that and gets called Jose for playing five at the back. Other than that, it's like for like. And our like is shit. It's very hard to judge any manager with this squad. Did he create some of the problems himself by selling? Sure, but we needed players out - another thing we've been calling for for years. The next part is getting players in. He's not responsible for that. Do we honestly believe he didn't want a striker to replace Lukaku? He clearly wants Fernandes. We all do. He can see how obvious an issue that is in our side. And the club is typically screwing it up. I don't trust the club to properly back ANY manager. All our manager's failings should have the Woodward/Glazer asterisk by their name. I'm sure there's better coaches out there than Ole. But he's the one we've got and the bigger issue is the clowns above them. They're the common denominator of our failings of the last 7 years, not Ole. Unless we strike it lucky with a Klopp (and even within that time they got a shit hot DOF that massively improved recruitment), there's a limit and caveat to everything we do. |
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That's not to say I wouldn't have reservations, as I do now. I just couldn't care less that he used to play for us. Because people (not you) are still clinging to the idea that there are easy answers and cast-iron guarantees out there, and there just aren't. |
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Bang on. The squads weaker than it was last season, but that's due to lack of replacements while binning off players that need to be binned off to bring the replacements required in. (Not that I have any confidence in the hierarchy bringing in any replacements, but that would be the same under any manager.) Thank £#%&! Ole has got the best out of Rashford, Fred and The Scottish Player, and introduced Williams and Greenwood into the first team. |
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He shouldn't have been given the manager's job before the end of last season, and he shouldn't be sacked before the end of this one.
If Woodward's inability/lack of genuine desire to bring in new players continues through to the end of this transfer window, what top manager would even want to come in to a shambles of a club, run by a man that really hasn't a clue about football and whose only interest is ensuring sufficient funds are there each year to pay dividends to the owners? |
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Any other club would have sacked Woodward or at least taken those responsibilities off him by now. The Glazers either don't care or worse, actually approve. |
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Expectations lower and further allowances will keep being made because our manager is beloved. Woody - blinder. A+ |