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Unread 13-09-2021, 07:35 PM
elhombre
 
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Of course, the answer to the thread title could always be "both".
Have a day off
 
Unread 13-09-2021, 07:39 PM
Neo
 
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You've not actually addressed my post in any way

You've just quoted me and stated your opinion

He's transient

He won't ever be forgotten in the UFC but he won't have a genuine legacy like GSP

He knows how to make a crowd take notice

He's quite a good striker

He he's good at what he does

But it diminishes with his attitude that is rancid and it's actually firing up his opponents and putting people off him

Khabib and Diaz showed huge weaknesses in his game - he's not a great grappler

He'll do ok, he'll get himself in to a position of contention but his star has faded

Don't wish him any harm but he does nothing for me as fighter
I think that's harsh.

His record is clearly one of the most impressive in recent MMA history. Between late 2014 - late 2016 he went on a ridiculous run, beating elite fighters in Poirier, Siver, Mendes and Aldo, getting stoppages against all of them, before overturning his loss to Nate Diaz, and then perhaps his best performance in the stoppage of Eddie Alvarez. Along the way he won the Featherwight and Lightweight World Titles, becoming the first ever double-champ in the history of the UFC.

His star was at it's zenith at that point, and he went off and did the nonsense with Floyd Mayweather, had his first child, and was out of the UFC for about 2 years, only returning to lose to Khabib.

He hasn't been the same fighter since that mauling, but it's hard to argue that before that point he wasn't one of the greatest fighters in UFC history. His list of opponents is arguably more impressive than Khabib's, and he won belts in different weight divisions. He definitely has a great legacy.
 
Unread 13-09-2021, 07:42 PM
Vedder
 
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He was absolutely brilliant up till the Floyd fight. Since then heís been a f***ing shambles in and out of the octagon. Wasted his prime years pissing about and is obviously a loose canon. A shame because at one point he looked untouchable and was pretty likeable
 
Unread 14-09-2021, 09:51 AM
Whip Hubley
 
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Have a day off
 
Unread 14-09-2021, 10:01 AM
guerreiro
 
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Gobshite.
 
Unread 14-09-2021, 11:05 AM
shenwen
 
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Clearly he's a coke-raged dick, but when he was on top he was an incredible fighter. He's good for a few more big money match ups, but he's not got a chance of being a champion again.

Still prefer him to Machine Gun Kelly ffs. Only have a tiny idea of who he is, but that f***ing name alone is enough
 
Unread 14-09-2021, 01:28 PM
rustling jimmies
 
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I think that's harsh.

His record is clearly one of the most impressive in recent MMA history. Between late 2014 - late 2016 he went on a ridiculous run, beating elite fighters in Poirier, Siver, Mendes and Aldo, getting stoppages against all of them, before overturning his loss to Nate Diaz, and then perhaps his best performance in the stoppage of Eddie Alvarez. Along the way he won the Featherwight and Lightweight World Titles, becoming the first ever double-champ in the history of the UFC.

His star was at it's zenith at that point, and he went off and did the nonsense with Floyd Mayweather, had his first child, and was out of the UFC for about 2 years, only returning to lose to Khabib.

He hasn't been the same fighter since that mauling, but it's hard to argue that before that point he wasn't one of the greatest fighters in UFC history. His list of opponents is arguably more impressive than Khabib's, and he won belts in different weight divisions. He definitely has a great legacy.
He's anti vax though.
 
Unread 14-09-2021, 01:42 PM
Vedder
 
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The aura went after the Floyd fight imo. Towards the end he was getting picked apart and taking a beating. I donít care if heís not a boxer, when youíre used to seeing somebody f*** other people up and look invincible and then youíre watching a smaller man with zero power battering him it wasnít a good look. It was the best thing that happened to him money wise but it took so much away from his career and his aura. He was a f***ing disgrace against Khabib btw. The aura had gone. If he fought Khabib right after becoming double champ it may have been a different story
 
Unread 14-09-2021, 01:45 PM
Drexl
 
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I actually quite like him

Tries to be a bit poetic (for want of a better word)

But a machine of a man. Far play to him
 
Unread 14-09-2021, 01:49 PM
Neo
 
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He's anti vax though.
How did he get into the VMAs then, given the requirement for attendees to be double-vaccinated?

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...id-19-1206737/
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