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Unread 13-08-2022, 06:09 PM
silv
 
Default our biggest issue

what is it?

whats causing this crap?

defence? midfield? morale?
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 06:10 PM
AK14
 
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Owners.

Simple.
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 06:14 PM
20LEgend1999
 
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Moyes, Giggs, Van Gaal, Mourinho, Solskjaer, Rangnick and Ten Hag IMO.
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 06:16 PM
BarryX
 
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We became a business that turned anyone who signed for us into a multi-millionaire and global star. A combination of the leadership of that business, and the manner in which they operate, and the egos of the players, turned what was once a team into a group of individuals. They're overpaid and have over-inflated opinions of themselves, full stop.
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 06:16 PM
Patty_b
 
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The club in general. Ownership has set the tone. Ferguson along with the experience in the dressing room managed to keep the standards for a time. As soon as they left, the toxicity of our ownership filtered down. All about squeezing every last penny out of the name of the club for commercial deals and social media interactions, while neglecting the football side of things. Lazily thinking that they can just throw some money at a big name every couple of years and it will make everything ok. And if it doesn't work, blame the manager, sack them, and just hire someone else.

How can you expect the players to give a shit when the people paying their wages treat the club like they do.
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 06:19 PM
red in cumbria
 
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A reminder that basically the same team as now finished league runners-up barely a year ago.

By any standards the last 18 months have been a precipitous fall.
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 06:22 PM
suedeshoes
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AK14
Owners.

Simple.
It's not. There's enough quality on that pitch to not be 4 down to Brentford after 45 minutes.
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 06:24 PM
believe
 
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Originally Posted by suedeshoes
It's not. There's enough quality on that pitch to not be 4 down to Brentford after 45 minutes.
This.

Our biggest problem is the fans.
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 06:24 PM
red in cumbria
 
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Originally Posted by suedeshoes
It's not. There's enough quality on that pitch to not be 4 down to Brentford after 45 minutes.
Brentford are a well run club, with an actual team rather than a bunch of disparate individuals.

Total contrast with us in all respects.
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 06:27 PM
silv
 
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Originally Posted by suedeshoes
It's not. There's enough quality on that pitch to not be 4 down to Brentford after 45 minutes.
well four managers later who do you blame?
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 06:28 PM
Fat Al
 
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Unread 13-08-2022, 06:29 PM
AK14
 
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Originally Posted by suedeshoes
It's not. There's enough quality on that pitch to not be 4 down to Brentford after 45 minutes.
It definitely is.

We have disjointed mess of a team made up of players signed by 5 different managers on ridiculous contracts which were handed out for years of mediocrity.

No manager has been fully backed to rebuild and have had to deal with cretins like Woodward, Judge and Arnold etc £#%&!ing them over (see this window).

As LvG rightly said we are a commercial club and that is down to the poor management of the club which is ultimately down to the owners.
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 06:31 PM
NedKelly
 
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It’s funny you should mention the big issue, as our squad is comprised of £#%&!ing tramps.
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 06:33 PM
suedeshoes
 
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With the United players on that pitch we should not be 4-0 down to Brentford. That is not just the owners fault.
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 06:33 PM
Lok
 
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A mismatched squad put together by too many managers.

Too many football decisions made by suits.

Signing mentally weak players and sticking with them.

Losing is too easy, there's no consequence.

The weight of expectation.
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 06:34 PM
Sparky***
 
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Originally Posted by silv
what is it?

whats causing this crap?

defence? midfield? morale?
the club is rotten mate.

A directionless, leaderless relic.
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 06:34 PM
AK14
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by suedeshoes
With the United players on that pitch we should not be 4-0 down to Brentford. That is not just the owners fault.
That’s not what the question was

“Biggest issue”

Biggest issue is the people running things that have mismanaged the club from top to bottom for years.
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 07:05 PM
Chris Quayd
 
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Playing football seems to be up there
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 07:48 PM
Whip Hubley
 
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Originally Posted by believe
This.

Our biggest problem is the fans.
You're a properly odd glazer apologist. Really weird.
 
Unread 13-08-2022, 07:52 PM
ZiggyStardust
 
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The biggest issue is simple

We mentally and physically can’t compete with teams in this league
We lose nearly every physical duel on the pitch

It’s our lack of spirit that results in these appalling performances and results
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