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Unread 22-11-2017, 04:51 PM
red in cumbria
 
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Tbf the internet has been in steady decline since everyone's mum, gran, kid, journalists and the government started using it.
Tbf that was how it started back in about 1969, no?
 
Unread 22-11-2017, 06:05 PM
rockored2
 
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I can't see it happening.
I'm generally wrong about these things though.
 
Unread 22-11-2017, 08:37 PM
Fat Al
 
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Deep web? Dark web? TOR?

If this goes thru, yiu wonít be able to get any of that. Youíll be in a closed network. Youíll only go where your ISP (and by that, I mean the Govt) want you to go.
 
Unread 22-11-2017, 08:58 PM
TheKitchenSink
 
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Depends on how it's enforced. More likely you'll have premium unlimited access to promoted/paid for sites - facebook, twitter, etc ... and reduced speed access to everything else with a certain limit of something like 5-10GB.

Feels like it's a matter of time until the internet's wild west days are over. In 20 years people will probably find it ridiculous that in this era we could just go to a search engine, type in a music album, game, book, or whatever else and find a download link in seconds.
 
Unread 22-11-2017, 10:16 PM
Why Don?
 
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If it passes in the US ISP companies over here have an opportunity to pressure the government into pushing through similar legislation. The beleaguered PM has already made it know she wants to regulate the internet completely.
They'll disguise it as "increasing competition and therefore improving bandwidth and wifi reach" but reality is it's just another money-spinner making people pay a ransom for services which have become the norm in everyday life.
How do you spin something that massively decreases competition into something that increases it?
 
Unread 22-11-2017, 10:18 PM
Harri Jaffa
 
Thumbs up

 
Unread 22-11-2017, 10:19 PM
Zorg
 
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How do you spin something that massively decreases competition into something that increases it?
'Terrorists'.
 
Unread 22-11-2017, 10:22 PM
Why Don?
 
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As someone who has paid no attention to this, I pose this simple question:

Why wouldn't an independent ISP offer an open service and make a fortune?

Is the fear that Google etc... will refuse connection attempts from such ISPs?

Or is the fear that we're moving to wide scale public wifi and that the traditional infrastructure will die and we'll be forced into one of these services as Google/Facebook/Amazon are likely to be implementing the new infra?

The MEO example listed is still an 'open' model so to speak. You get 10gb to do whatever the f*** you want and then on top of that you pay for your bundles. Surely there will be a 'general f***ing about' bundle.

It just seems like a different way of dividing bandwidth so they can charge heavy users more.
Well in the UK BT own all the cables so they could strangle all the other ISPs.

It's not just to divide bandwidth, individually pricing services means ISPs can make services they don't like, prohibitively expensive.

It's purely to make huge corporations even richer at the expense of the masses.

There is no benefit to the consumer in doing this and it massively decreases competition.

It completely stinks?
 
Unread 23-11-2017, 12:04 PM
Switching Off
 
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How it affects gaming, with some overall background.

http://www.pcgamer.com/how-net-neutr...cts-pc-gamers/
 
Unread 23-11-2017, 12:25 PM
red red robbo
 
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How does this affect UK? These are US laws. Are China, Russia and the rest of the world going to take any notice?
What do you think the US are going to insist on with any country they do a trade deal with?
 
Unread 23-11-2017, 12:39 PM
Zorg
 
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How it affects gaming, with some overall background.

http://www.pcgamer.com/how-net-neutr...cts-pc-gamers/
Sparky will fall out of his Meganerd X2000 when he reads that.
 
Unread 23-11-2017, 04:46 PM
Alex Jones was Right
 
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Originally Posted by Why Don?
How do you spin something that massively decreases competition into something that increases it?
The business propaganda machine has been doing similar kinds of things for decades. Selling shit to people thatís against their interests but is good for business. How did they turn a waste product of aluminium production into profit instead of loss? Hey look everybody, itís good for your teeth.
 
Unread 23-11-2017, 04:57 PM
Sapien
 
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Sparky will fall out of his Meganerd X2000 when he reads that.
 
Unread 11-12-2017, 11:38 AM
Switching Off
 
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Look at the neck on this c***.

http://www.pcgamer.com/verizon-vp-jo...-says-awesome/
 
Unread 14-12-2017, 06:24 PM
Baron
 
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c***s voted it through

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Restrictions on US broadband providers' ability to prioritise one service's data over another are to be reduced after a vote by a regulator.

The Federal Communications Commission split three to two in favour of changing the way "net neutrality" is governed.

Internet service providers (ISPs) will now be allowed to speed up or slow down different companies' data, and charge consumers according to the services they access.

But they must disclose such practices.

Proceedings in Washington were halted for around 15 minutes after a security alert forced an evacuation of the FCC's chamber.

Campaigners claim the reversal of rules introduced under President Barack Obama will make the internet less open and accessible.

But the FCC's chairman Ajit Pai has suggested the move will foster innovation and encourage ISPs to invest in faster connections for people living in rural areas.

He refers to the change as "restoring internet freedom".

Technically, the vote was to reclassify broadband internet as an information service rather than telecommunications.

The consequence of this is that the FCC will no longer directly regulate ISPs.

Instead jurisdiction will pass to another regulator, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). Its key responsibility will be to check that the companies disclose if they block data, throttle it or offer to prioritise traffic, rather than stopping such behaviour.

One criticism of this is that consumers often have few if any ISPs to choose between. Moreover, opponents of the change claim it could take years to address any misbehaviour.

"I dissent to this legally-lightweight, consumer-harming, corporate-enabling, destroying-internet freedom order," said Democrat commissioner Mignon Clyburn ahead of the vote.

But fellow commissioner Michael O'Rielly, a Republican, said fears over the end of net neutrality were a "scary bedtime story for the children of telecom geeks".
 
Unread 14-12-2017, 06:26 PM
Sparky***
 
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As if they were ever going to do anything else
 
Unread 14-12-2017, 06:27 PM
Poop
 
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Hope he's shot dead...

 
Unread 14-12-2017, 06:31 PM
naes_sean
 
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Hope he's shot dead...

https://youtu.be/LFhT6H6pRWg
hope he gets ****. the bad kind.
 
Unread 14-12-2017, 06:34 PM
Poop
 
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hope he gets ****. the bad kind.
And then gets shot dead.
 
Unread 14-12-2017, 06:36 PM
Arnold Muhren
 
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Is this going to be as bad as the rantings of the usual suspects on Twitter? £5 each for using Twitter, FB, Whatsapp, Xvideos etc? The Portugal model looks pretty grim. Not a dig, genuinely don't know much about it.
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