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Always suspected City might struggle in the CL as soon as they were challenged, because they have so rarely been challenged all season.
They are comfortably the best team in the league, but the gap is flattering. It's a reflection of winning key games, key moments and then the knock on effect of momentum and the confidence a gap brings. We saw it with Chelsea the year before too. As soon as they got a big lead, that was it. The gap grew and grew. They obviously weren't/aren't that much better because they're going to finish 5th this season. City will not have it all their own way next season and last night proved just how vulnerable they actually are. Liverpool didn't have to do anything they don't normally do and they were 3 up inside half an hour. Every city big hitters disappeared last night. For all the relentless fawning over them, they are yet to prove anything more than the fact our league is there for the taking by any team who can grow in confidence and get the wind behind them. The talk of just how good this city side is has been ridiculously. Great sides are adaptable and grind it out when they need to. City looked utterly baffled by what to do last night and didn't rise to the challenge all night. They shrank. Great sides don't shrink. |
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Our manager bounded down the corridor at Old Trafford to tell City to keep the celebrations down last time they met, pal. Loopy indeed. Mou hates facing Guardiola. I suspect Klopp hates facing Mou. Guardiola deffo hates facing Klopp. |
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Both him and Guardiola are sour little bitches when they lose, so each one is gonna look 'owned' when they do. |
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Berts are rock (oil), we're paper (money), verm are scissors (violence) |
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To the Fraudiola fan club on here, a question from Mr Dunphy:
"This is the question that remains unanswered about Guardiola – can he win it without Messi, Xavi and Iniesta? https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018...nce-guardiola/ If he can't do it with super teams at bayern and city who have the league won by easter. Where can he do it? |
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Truth is Mou made Madrid a big club again and he killed Barca's cloak of invincibility. Guardiola went on a "sabbatical" after being humiliated by Mou. Good stuff from big dunc in the arab news: |
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Who were the last team to win the CL without Ronaldo or Messi? I can’t £#%&!ing remember . Munich at Wembley?
Just checked, 7 of the last 10 CL’s have gone to teams containing Ronaldo or Messi Pair of awesome £#%&!ing bastards. Should probably be getting a team ready for when the pair of them retire |
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The difference - and it ties in with the discussion about Guardiola last night - is that Heynckess is prepared to adapt it for the biggest games in the Champions League. They dominated the ball at Sevilla, but if they played City they could, as they did against Barcelona in 2013, switch to a counter-attacking style. But 95% of Heynckes' Bayern were a continuation of the Dutch school ideas implemented in 2010. Dunc needs to do some homework. |
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Their coaches also set out a framework for that group to function within when playing, in accordance to the manager’s general instruction. Van gaal was supposedly a shit people manager but a brilliant coach. Which is why he had his best success at Ajax, having come through their system as a coach. But struggled more when managing at other clubs. |
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[quote=jem;4922736]nor would I.
sorry.... we've had latter years fergie, moyes, king louis and £#%&!ing mourinho... and somehow its my attitude that is wrong? fergie was a @#%&!, but he was a good manager. never particularly rated him as a coach. did anyone? I am sure Fergie cries himself to sleep at night, knowing that Weasel Jem from UTD forum does not rate him as a coach.. I guess he just has to consoul himself with the 38 trophies he won at Utd and the rest in Scotland... |
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