Van Gaal: The Decision.

Excitement is not only about the style of football on the pitch. It's about the intensity of matches, the rivalry between the teams, rivalry between the clubs, the sense of togetherness against media etc.

We are in a position where 15 mins into a goalless first half sends ot crowd into panic. Teams come to ot and play expansive football while we £#%&! around in midfield.

Not a single part of the team can be believed to be 'sorted'. Creativity in Midfield has to be compromised for defense to look solid. Clipboard Colin is all about numbers the boring turd. Looking him Sat on the dugout with a pale look on his face is depressing and no wonder the young side are struggling for confidence.

Mourinho will make the matches exciting. The football may not be stunning but it won't be as excruciating as now. We will not look so £#%&!ing clueless in last 15 mins while chasing games. Press conferences will be interesting instead of the rubbish we are fed now. Liverpool, city, arsenal , Chelsea will all £#%&!ing despise us. The matches will have an edge.

We can worry about total attacking football when we have won a couple of league titles and stable.

Originally Posted by doudou

Just read this http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/socc...gaal-1.2473047

Think he's got a point, particularly the bit about gesticulating on the touchline.

So very spot on.

There's nothing city can offer Pep that United can't, save maybe an empty stadium every week and unlimited blue ketchup. If they had any sense they'd be on the phone right now offering to match whatever city offer, and telling LVG he can consult on handing over the reins in May. Who knows, the players might even be buoyed enough to start turning up occasionally.

Originally Posted by Zorg

There's nothing city can offer Pep that United can't, save maybe an empty stadium every week and unlimited blue ketchup. If they had any sense they'd be on the phone right now offering to match whatever city offer, and telling LVG he can consult on handing over the reins in May. Who knows, the players might even be buoyed enough to start turning up occasionally.

LVG should go into the Director of Football role if Pep is available. Not sure Jose would have the appetite for that, but we don't need to lose his input - just his first team coaching position.

Shame Pep can't come in now tbh, would be £#%&!ing funny watching him trying to get a tune out of some of the shite we have in attacking positions and we all know what a solid defence he cultivates

If its Giggs we are £#%&!ed.

Originally Posted by rafabio

Excitement is not only about the style of football on the pitch. It's about the intensity of matches, the rivalry between the teams, rivalry between the clubs, the sense of togetherness against media etc.

We are in a position where 15 mins into a goalless first half sends ot crowd into panic. Teams come to ot and play expansive football while we £#%&! around in midfield.

Not a single part of the team can be believed to be 'sorted'. Creativity in Midfield has to be compromised for defense to look solid. Clipboard Colin is all about numbers the boring turd. Looking him Sat on the dugout with a pale look on his face is depressing and no wonder the young side are struggling for confidence.

Mourinho will make the matches exciting. The football may not be stunning but it won't be as excruciating as now. We will not look so £#%&!ing clueless in last 15 mins while chasing games. Press conferences will be interesting instead of the rubbish we are fed now. Liverpool, city, arsenal , Chelsea will all £#%&!ing despise us. The matches will have an edge.

We can worry about total attacking football when we have won a couple of league titles and stable.

Yes that's the way I look at it.

Mourinho, the utter #@&%!, would bring a bit of charisma back to proceedings. Well, maybe not charisma: Van Gaal has that, but we're far too friendly under him.

Fergie £#%&!ed the BBC off.
Fergie fought the FA.
It worked.

The BBC still £#%&!ing hate us. They would cower against the twin threat of MUFC and Mourinho and I'd like to see that scenario unfold.

I'd much rather share a bottle of red with Louis, watching him slap Giggs around the head etc. But for the rest, it may as well be a winner in the prime of his life with much greater knowledge of the english game.

Pep will only get up to the same crap as Mou but with no intention of staying here and zero charm.

Mourinho + funds = the return of trophies and boiled piss.

Yes pls.

Originally Posted by Sizlack

No idea pal
Porto

• Primeira Liga: 2002–03, 2003–04
• Taça de Portugal: 2002–03
• Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira: 2003
• UEFA Champions League: 2003–04
• UEFA Cup: 2002–03

Chelsea

• Premier League: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2014–15
• FA Cup: 2006–07
• Football League Cup: 2004–05, 2006–07, 2014–15
• FA Community Shield: 2005

José Mourinho on the touchline against Leicester City in August 2014


Inter Milan

• Serie A: 2008–09, 2009–10
• Coppa Italia: 2009–10
• Supercoppa Italiana: 2008
• UEFA Champions League: 2009–10

Real Madrid

• La Liga: 2011–12
• Copa del Rey: 2010–11
• Supercopa de España: 2012

Checkmate!

Have a look through the Premiership managers.

Some play awful, sterile football but get results.

Some play expansive, exciting football with less success.

We're getting the crap without the results.

Originally Posted by itisme_panaflex

Very good article.

Mourinho would be horrible. Just can't understand how people who have been complaining about how boring and or deluded/past it lvg is, are now looking forward to this circus.

Excellent writer..

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/socc...ries-1.2448160

The touchline has nothing to do with it, it's the fact the football is worse than Moyes and he's lost all the players. He's actually become a figure of fun to them. He's outdated. On Saturday they literally gave up.

Mourinho isn't negative ffs people have short memories.

Originally Posted by doudou

Just read this http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/socc...gaal-1.2473047

Think he's got a point, particularly the bit about gesticulating on the touchline.

Hmm, I wrote my final year university dissertation about football and soap opera. Something about BSkyB, football and the open-ended narrative
That was in 1994

Originally Posted by ziggyman17

Excellent writer..

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/socc...ries-1.2448160

That's rubbish. Guardiola's teams are smashing 3/4/5 past their opponents every week. A lot of possession combined with directness. We are making no chances and aren't even doing the possession thing particularly well. We'd walk the league next season with Guardiola in charge.

Originally Posted by ziggyman17

Excellent writer..

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/socc...ries-1.2448160

Indeed.

Have been a big Ken Early fan ever since this devastating take-down of Moyes' United when Henry Winter and the other UK-based Sunday Supplement #@&%!s were still parroting that he needed more time.

Originally Posted by Vedder

Mourinho isn't negative ffs people have short memories.

Mourinho isn't negative. It's not that simple. Mourinho wants to win at all costs. If that includes being negative in a match or ten, he will do it. If that includes having someone dive for a penalty, it seems he will do that too.

Win at all costs. He doesn't give a shit about any stat other than that one. He is not about beautiful football. He is about the competition.

Winning isn't just the goal of a playing philosophy. Winning is his philosophy.

Originally Posted by ziggyman17

Excellent writer..

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/socc...ries-1.2448160

I actually think that article's a load of shite

He actually basis the entire article on our 2008/09 league season when we had an unusually low goals total and then makes out as if that is stereotypical of Fergie's Utd

Ferguson always paid lip-service to the idea of attacking football, but the reality was that he often sent out defence-focused sides, knowing he could rely on his world-class forwards to make the difference

This line in the article is absolute %@#$&!s
No Utd weren't attacking all the time and sometimes Fergie was pragmatic but to actually make out that he generally sent out defensive sides is ridiculous
Fergie's Utd were more often than not an exciting attacking side which scored lots of goals. That can surely not be up for debate

Originally Posted by boreez

Mourinho isn't negative. It's not that simple. Mourinho wants to win at all costs. If that includes being negative in a match or ten, he will do it. If that includes having someone dive for a penalty, it seems he will do that too.

Win at all costs. He doesn't give a shit about any stat other than that one. He is not about beautiful football. He is about the competition.

Winning isn't just the goal of a playing philosophy. Winning is his philosophy.

His teams play good football, his first Chelsea side were shit hot and broke a load of records, his Chelsea team last year were fantastic for the first 6 months. His inter side won everything in sight and finished top scorers in both his seasons there and his Madrid team were smashing goals in too including getting over 100 points in the league and finishing top scorers 3 out of his 4 seasons. I've posted that in another thread but £#%&! it. He's not negative

Pretty clear to see those Chelsea players wanted him out, I know it was only Sunderland but they played well Saturday as soon as he was out the door

Originally Posted by Admiral

That's rubbish. Guardiola's teams are smashing 3/4/5 past their opponents every week. A lot of possession combined with directness. We are making no chances and aren't even doing the possession thing particularly well. We'd walk the league next season with Guardiola in charge.

I think you'd be quite disappointed. Pep's achieved a lot, but with 2 astoundingly good squads, why do people attribute everything to his prowess and assume it's transferable to any merry band of shithouses and success is guaranteed. No doubt he's good, but we've never seen him achieve anything without a squad packed with worldies, let alone a squad packed with some of the worthless @#%&!s we have.

I think he would improve us, but walk the league ? Sorry not this league with these players.

Originally Posted by billynomates

I think he would improve us, but walk the league ? Sorry not this league with these players.

He's clearly incredibly talented, but he's never had to overhaul a squad the way he'd have to at United. Would he have the stomach for that?