*Official* United v Arsenal Match Thread - Teams and Rooney better score

Carrick didn't have to go and get the ball from the CB's because they are extremely proficient when it comes to bringing the ball out and starting play. In the case of a game where both teams are squeezing the play and the centre of the pitch has 6 CM's congesting the area, the last thing you want is to play the ball into there, as that is asking for trouble, no time, no space. So they either go around it, using the wide men and full backs who can push on, or you bypass the bottleneck and go over it to the front man, forcing the defending midfield to have to face their own goal.

It's fairly simple, really. Arsenal failed because they try to play through the middle, as a result they created £#%&! all because the Unied midfield and defence were always in front of them, facing the play.

United adapt, Arsenal inept.

Originally Posted by dunk

Carrick didn't have to go and get the ball from the CB's because they are extremely proficient when it comes to bringing the ball out and starting play. In the case of a game where both teams are squeezing the play and the centre of the pitch has 6 CM's congesting the area, the last thing you want is to play the ball into there, as that is asking for trouble, no time, no space. So they either go around it, using the wide men and full backs who can push on, or you bypass the bottleneck and go over it to the front man, forcing the defending midfield to have to face their own goal.

It's fairly simple, really. Arsenal failed because they try to play through the middle, as a result they created £#%&! all because the Unied midfield and defence were alwas in front of them, facing the play.

United adapt, Arsenal inept.

For me, this.

Originally Posted by Terry Silver

Fair enough. Time to call it a day on that one.

S'pose I'll see you on Sunday on the match thread.

Have you chalkboards ready.

I'd never even heard of the things before yesterday.

Originally Posted by Terry Silver

United don't take short goal kicks such an extent that any long goal kick could be viewed as some sort of tactical ploy, as Borsuk is trying to suggest.

I'm sure VDS was working all weekend on goalkicks, and Fergie told Carrick he didn't have to worry about getting on the ball because we were going to focus on lumping high balls up to expose the Arsenal CBs (who won pretty much everything that was put in their direction).

here's an idea: why don't you actually respond to the point made instead of making a completely different one up?

nobody said we 'always' take short kicks
nobody said we take short kicks as 'standard' (whatever the £#%&! that means)
nobody said 'any' long kick is a tactical ploy (though it clearly is a decision by the keeper based on something or other, unless you think it's random)


the arsenal cbs didn't win everything. rooney won a fair few balls and, more importantly, we picked up the second balls when their clearances fell to us.


the point that's being made is that united playing some long passes is not evidence of carrick failing to be available. which is pretty £#%&!ing obvious tbh and i really have no idea why you're bothering to dispute it, especially as it says nothing about whether or not carrick was playing well or not, just that the particular stick you're using to beat him isn't the right one.

el tel and the lovely haired grimson.... no one wins this kind of argument. indeed, even when you repeatedly kick someone's arse and beat them black and blue, people will just say "shyeah, jem.... but you were abaf".

Originally Posted by borsuk

our goal came from a long ball and a header won against the arsenal cb.

our goal came from a shorter ball which pulled the centre back way out of position and was won by a midfielder. the kicks aimed at rooney were uniformly shitter than the centre backs. if we play like that against chelsea, we'll get nothing. let rooney run at the £#%&!ers (or, if terry is stupid enough to play on the half way line, put it behind them). the odd long ball can be effective, but we were using it out of desperation and our ball retention was awful. fortunately, so was theirs.

rooney v terry with the ball at his feet..... deep joy.

rooney v terry in the air..... we have to listen to another £#%&!ing jt is da man interview.

Originally Posted by jem

el tel and the lovely haired grimson.... no one wins this kind of argument. indeed, even when you repeatedly kick someone's arse and beat them black and blue, people will just say "shyeah, jem.... but you were abaf".



our goal came from a shorter ball which pulled the centre back way out of position and was won by a midfielder. the kicks aimed at rooney were uniformly shitter than the centre backs. if we play like that against chelsea, we'll get nothing. let rooney run at the £#%&!ers (or, if terry is stupid enough to play on the half way line, put it behind them). the odd long ball can be effective, but we were using it out of desperation and our ball retention was awful. fortunately, so was theirs.

rooney v terry with the ball at his feet..... deep joy.

rooney v terry in the air..... we have to listen to another £#%&!ing jt is da man interview.

yes yes ...but you were ABAF

Originally Posted by £#%&! KFC

yes yes ...but you were ABAF

:bahhumbugeek: :bahhumbugmad:

Originally Posted by jem

people will just say "shyeah, jem.... but you were abaf".

Might have known :bahhumbugrolleyes:

see?

see?!

this has not gone according to plan.

:bahhumbugshakehead:

right, so ferguson decided to stifle midfield and hoof the ball from back to front asap so often because carrick didn't show for the ball off the centre backs... and it was £#%&! all to do with the fact ferguson using an extra body in stifling said midfield still didn't give him any real confidence that we could play a genuine possession game with any great success

Originally Posted by Grimson

Er, isn't that what I said?

I should have put "cleanly" in italics but was on my iPhone. It would have read differently that way.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

right, so ferguson decided to stifle midfield and hoof the ball from back to front asap so often because carrick didn't show for the ball off the centre backs... and it was £#%&! all to do with the fact ferguson using an extra body in stifling said midfield still didn't give him any real confidence that we could play a genuine possession game with any great success

throb in "best squad in world cannot put out midfield comfortable in possession" shock.

next up, throb blames glazers for lack of investment.

Originally Posted by jem

next up, throb blames glazers for lack of investment.

Originally Posted by jem

throb in "best squad in world cannot put out midfield comfortable in possession" shock.

next up, throb blames glazers for lack of investment.

fail. again.

united's passing is often top notch. the point is that keeping possession in midfield isn't usually the reason ferguson blankets it against arsenal.

£#%&! me things must be going well if we're arguing about how we take goalkicks

Originally Posted by jem

el tel and the lovely haired grimson.... no one wins this kind of argument. indeed, even when you repeatedly kick someone's arse and beat them black and blue, people will just say "shyeah, jem.... but you were abaf".



our goal came from a shorter ball which pulled the centre back way out of position and was won by a midfielder. the kicks aimed at rooney were uniformly shitter than the centre backs. if we play like that against chelsea, we'll get nothing. let rooney run at the £#%&!ers (or, if terry is stupid enough to play on the half way line, put it behind them). the odd long ball can be effective, but we were using it out of desperation and our ball retention was awful. fortunately, so was theirs.

rooney v terry with the ball at his feet..... deep joy.

rooney v terry in the air..... we have to listen to another £#%&!ing jt is da man interview.

Why play Rooney though?

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

fail. again.

you aren't qualified to fail me. it would be like cheeta failing tarzan.

more chance of explaining colour to a blind man than there is of you tuning to humour.

Originally Posted by dodger

Why play Rooney though?

against arsenal? we needed a penalty taker?

Originally Posted by jem

you aren't qualified to fail me. it would be like cheeta failing tarzan.

more chance of explaining colour to a blind man than there is of you tuning to humour.

haha, very humorous