Frank de Boer

Hodgson was garbage with England and Liverpool but he's done a decent jobs with shit clubs like Fulham and WBA so I think he'll do well at Palace IMO opinion.

Lasted longer at Inter Milan.

Joke of a decision to be honest. Assume the players were b***hing to the Director of Football who then ran to Parish.

Originally Posted by lindelof

Lasted longer at Inter Milan.

De Boer or Hodgson?

Maybe it's just time to admit the 'dutch philosophy' has had it's day, eh?

their national team is doing shite, their managers aren't doing much better.

Even Ajax got knocked out of the Europa league qualifiers by Rosenborg ffs so they won't be in europe for the first time in about 60 years.

Palace played Huddersfield, Swansea and Burnley and failed to score a single £#%&!ing goal. As far as starts go those are as good a set of fixtures as you could hope for. Too right he should be sacked.

Considering they apparently played their best game of the season yesterday and still lost to Burnley it's not surprising alarm bells are ringing.

De Boer is well out of his depth imo. Had it easy in Holland for a while (even Schteve won that league), but bombed spectacularly at Inter and started this season with no goals in four games and seven conceded, all losses.

Is possible that there's stuff going on in training etc that hasn't been released. Who knows. Wouldn't write Woy off if they bring him in. Did vewy well with WBA & Fulham, just seems to shit himself when it comes to managing teams with higher expectations.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Maybe it's just time to admit the 'dutch philosophy' has had it's day, eh?

their national team is doing shite, their managers aren't doing much better.

Even Ajax got knocked out of the Europa league qualifiers by Rosenborg ffs so they won't be in europe for the first time in about 60 years.

Palace played Huddersfield, Swansea and Burnley and failed to score a single £#%&!ing goal. As far as starts go those are as good a set of fixtures as you could hope for. Too right he should be sacked.

Originally Posted by TheKitchenSink

Considering they apparently played their best game of the season yesterday and still lost to Burnley it's not surprising alarm bells are ringing.

De Boer is well out of his depth imo. Had it easy in Holland for a while (even Schteve won that league), but bombed spectacularly at Inter and started this season with no goals in four games and seven conceded, all losses.

Is possible that there's stuff going on in training etc that hasn't been released. Who knows. Wouldn't write Woy off if they bring him in. Did vewy well with WBA & Fulham, just seems to shit himself when it comes to managing teams with higher expectations.

Did very well with Switzerland & I don't think you could say he flopped at Inter.
Treated badly by the Vermin but then again, they're @#%&!s anyway.

Shocking to see that someone who's come through the Ajax system, can't produce the football he's been playing, and coaching all his life, with a squad built for clogger ball. Definitely all his fault, and nothing to do with abysmal planning, and backing from those behind the scenes.

Originally Posted by Fat Al

Did very well with Switzerland & I don't think you could say he flopped at Inter.
Treated badly by the Vermin but then again, they're c***s anyway.

I don't count Switzerland as higher expectations tbh, Inter is debatable but by and large he has failed at clubs with expectations beyond just being the plucky underdog or run of the mill mid-table team.

If Palace hire him he'll likely get them out of trouble. Problem for Palace is that Woy is 70 so realistically probably only has a couple of years left before he retires, then they're back to square one. But considering how short the average managerial reign is in the modern era that isn't really a deal breaker.

It's a total joke. Played ok at the weekend. Deserve to go down for this.

Originally Posted by Switching Off

Joke club. Hope they get Moyes and go down.

And they wouldn't even have to change the name on the door, just rearrange the letters a bit.

Originally Posted by utd99

And they wouldn't even have to change the name on the door, just rearrange the letters a bit.

Took a while but

Originally Posted by Sandman

Shocking to see that someone who's come through the Ajax system, can't produce the football he's been playing, and coaching all his life, with a squad built for clogger ball. Definitely all his fault, and nothing to do with abysmal planning, and backing from those behind the scenes.

Dutch football is failing on all levels. But yeah deffo palace's fault.

Palace have the 20th most expensive squad in world football



Absolutely £#%&!ing mental

I doubt anyone would say he's a poor manager as such, but if your success is utterly dependent on having a set of players only capable of playing the Ajax / Dutch style in a league where all of the talent is hoovered each season thus leaving a far more level playing field, then frankly someone (including him) has done absolutely £#%&! all due diligence on whether this will work elsewhere.

Palace playing like Ajax

Yeah OK. They can dare to dream and all that, but let's get it right - it's a 10 year plan, not 4 £#%&!ing games. They need a director of football, they need a youth set-up, they need to transition a couple of players each season into the side to evolve, you don't just pitch up & start pinging it about in this league & expect to be successful. They need to take the Cryuff handbook & have someone seriously diligent behind the scenes changing a LOT of the football club one piece at a time.

OR

You have a shitload of money & buy a load of the right players over 2 seasons then continually add to that. It would likely fail though, and the football is utter bilge as you try & implement it. Utter. Utter bilge.


The idea of aping great sides based on this style is completely admirable, but the realistic implementation of true posession based, formation fluid stuff is a @#%&! hair away from failure at every juncture. Every centre back passing it under pressure, every heads down winger finding themselves between two massive centre backs expected to know what's going on... it's obviously doomed before it starts.

Doubly so if the club you start at is Crystal £#%&!ing Palace

De Boer should simply never have been appointed. It was a horrendous decision made by a club with ambitions well beyond its current position. They would genuinely have been better off if they'd paid what was necessary to take Dyche from Burnley. Granted he doesn't play "sexy" football and his name isn't exotic, but I'm sure they wouldn't be sitting 19th with no points and no goals right now. They'd also have a manager in for the long term who's proven to be hugely adept at creating hard to beat, unified teams that punch well above their weight.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Dutch football is failing on all levels. But yeah deffo palace's fault.

Originally Posted by Baron

I doubt anyone would say he's a poor manager as such, but if your success is utterly dependent on having a set of players only capable of playing the Ajax / Dutch style in a league where all of the talent is hoovered each season thus leaving a far more level playing field, then frankly someone (including him) has done absolutely £#%&! all due diligence on whether this will work elsewhere.

Palace playing like Ajax

Yeah OK. They can dare to dream and all that, but let's get it right - it's a 10 year plan, not 4 £#%&!ing games. They need a director of football, they need a youth set-up, they need to transition a couple of players each season into the side to evolve, you don't just pitch up & start pinging it about in this league & expect to be successful. They need to take the Cryuff handbook & have someone seriously diligent behind the scenes changing a LOT of the football club one piece at a time.

OR

You have a shitload of money & buy a load of the right players over 2 seasons then continually add to that. It would likely fail though, and the football is utter bilge as you try & implement it. Utter. Utter bilge.


The idea of aping great sides based on this style is completely admirable, but the realistic implementation of true posession based, formation fluid stuff is a @#%&! hair away from failure at every juncture. Every centre back passing it under pressure, every heads down winger finding themselves between two massive centre backs expected to know what's going on... it's obviously doomed before it starts.

Doubly so if the club you start at is Crystal £#%&!ing Palace

Thing is, the football doesn't exist in a vacuum. There could also be a thousand things going on behind the scenes that the public never sees; personality issues being the most obvious. You could have the soundest plan possible, but if you can't get your group to embrace it then what's the point? Even the best managers are beholden to the eleven that have to execute their vision, and sad as it may be, modern footballers have too much power and are pampered @#%&!; there's not much consolation to be had in being the most visionary club to go down.

At that point chairmen have to make the call about whether it's ever going to work. If not, then why suffer the death of a thousand cuts? End it and move on.

Hodgson ffs State of the @#%&!, can't even talk properly....

"It is a gweat pwivilege to be named the new managew of Cwystal Palace. I am vewy pwoud".

Pity he doesn't have a lsip too.

Cwysthal Palath.

Lot of Palace fans on here.

Absolutely couldn't give a £#%&!.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Dutch football is failing on all levels. But yeah deffo palace's fault.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Maybe it's just time to admit the 'dutch philosophy' has had it's day, eh?

their national team is doing shite, their managers aren't doing much better.

Even Ajax got knocked out of the Europa league qualifiers by Rosenborg ffs so they won't be in europe for the first time in about 60 years.

Palace played Huddersfield, Swansea and Burnley and failed to score a single £#%&!ing goal. As far as starts go those are as good a set of fixtures as you could hope for. Too right he should be sacked.

There was one season in the 1980s I think, but yeah pretty remarkable. And a bit sad.