Arsenal v Manchester United : Official Match Thread : 23/4/22 12:30pm

Originally Posted by jem

one of the few things we've got right recently.

Justify this statement if you please sir

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Who exactly “deliberately” handballs it anyway apart from goalkeepers? The whole argument about intention is void in terms of handball. Unless it’s blatant Suarez job then nobody is intentionally handballing it

True. They say ‘intentional’, but in reality, it should be classed as ‘avoidable’. That seems to be the deciding factor. Could he have avoided handling it? In this instance, yes. He seems to try very hard to get himself in the way, including his arm, it’s not too dissimilar to just throwing your whole body at the ball on the goal line. You’re looking to block it with anything.

Intent does seem an odd thing to take into consideration. Players rarely intend to cause an offence in the box, because they know it’ll be a penalty. They still commit them though. Players don’t intend to do a lot of things on the pitch, but they’re still punished. Maybe we should disallow own goals that fly in off a defending blocking a cross because “well, he couldn’t help it, could he?”

Has lingard said the dressing room is a disaster ?

Originally Posted by puressence

Has lingard said the dressing room is a disaster ?

Who cares what he says.

The team coach should £#%&! off and leave him in London the rat.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Who cares what he says.

The team coach should £#%&! off and leave him in London the rat.

Agreed. Bet the @#%&! came off and started to do the caterpillar

Originally Posted by puressence

Has lingard said the dressing room is a disaster ?

According to Paul Scholes, yeah.

Originally Posted by puressence

Agreed. Bet the @#%&! came off and started to do the caterpillar

Still the king of shit@#%&!s imo.

Newcastle 11 pts behind us. Amazing stuff.

No penalty for this

https://twitter.com/i/status/1517840724544430083

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Who cares what he says.

The team coach should £#%&! off and leave him in London the rat.

So you can get a fare?

Originally Posted by Tuco

No penalty for this

https://twitter.com/i/status/1517840724544430083

According to Peter Walton says that can’t be given as a pen because he’s falling over. Ok, then be consistent, because I’d bet we’ll see plenty given for the same offence in the future.

Scholesy has absolutely dropped Lingard in it

One of the rats outed….several more to go

https://www.twitter.com/utdreport/status/1517867632279658497

Care to elaborate on ‘disaster’? How? Why?

Originally Posted by dunk

Care to elaborate on ‘disaster’? How? Why?

Cos it's full of utter shit@#%&!s?

Originally Posted by Fat Al

Cos it's full of utter shit@#%&!s?

Well I’m sure that doesn’t help. They’re at work ffs. What do they need to do other than turn up and cooperate?

Originally Posted by dunk

Care to elaborate on ‘disaster’? How? Why?

I get the feeling that Scholes meant it as a dig at Ralf but really it makes the players look like the bunch of mercenary @#%&!s they are

Originally Posted by dunk

Care to elaborate on ‘disaster’? How? Why?

Oh God, no, because that might actually take some guts and conviction. No surprise that it’s him, is it? Fitting that one of the biggest let downs and flashy #@&%!s is one of the ones moaning.

Who are the suspected others? Henderson? Bailly? Rashford? More shit@#%&!s who have done £#%&! all, but they’re the first to complain about standards.

Meanwhile, you don’t hear that it’s coming from the ones who are decent pros like Varane, Matic or Mata.

£#%&! the little rat. Heads the queue with Pogba as someone I can’t wait to see out the door.

I don’t disagree, however, Lingard was around to see the back end of the Fergie years so probably knows what a good dressing room looks like.

Would still like to know what the issues are. Are there divisions? players not getting on? It’s clear there’s a huge lack of leadership outside of Ronaldo.

Say what you want about Ole, but the same was said when Jose was there and he came in and got them all pulling in the right direction and a year ago you would’ve said one of the best things was that the dressing room seemed United in a way it hadn’t for ages. What the actual duck has gone wrong?

Just noticed Liverpool's goal difference. 61. Ours is two.

Originally Posted by shenwen

Just noticed Liverpool's goal difference. 61. Ours is two.

positive?

Originally Posted by goonlooca

positive?

We’ve drawn or lost 19 games. That’s £#%&!ing horrendous